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Is this a fold

Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
edited August 2013 in The Poker Clinic
Final 3 of ME 1 tiny stack to my left and a super aggro big stack on my right.

I pick up aces with the view of getting mr aggro all in pre, he flats my 3 bet and I get this flop.

Considering action and the fact that 2nd place is an extra £300 and also there is a tiny stack who is likely to go out over the next couple of orbits is this a fold to the min raise?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
TONY509 Small blind  1500.00 1500.00 377104.84
Batkin88 Big blind  3000.00 4500.00 214190.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
kcxyz Fold     
TONY509 Raise  4500.00 9000.00 372604.84
Batkin88 Raise  15000.00 24000.00 199190.00
TONY509 Call  12000.00 36000.00 360604.84
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 4
  • Q
     
TONY509 Check     
Batkin88 Bet  27000.00 63000.00 172190.00
TONY509 Raise  54000.00 117000.00 306604.84
Batkin88 ????
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited August 2013
    urgh

    your read is he is super aggro - so you are probably ahead of most of his range

    you can shove or fold - but as you have no spades and he might have one - and he has you covered - and his call pre means if he does have a spade it will be a big one - he may well call

    on reflection probably will fold - in game may well shove

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  • gazza127gazza127 Member Posts: 2,156
    edited August 2013
    Im hating the click back here...

    URGH... I dunno.  I'd like to think I'd fold as even if you are ahead... you arent miles ahead... but if you are playing 'Mr Aggro' id probably think he was messing about with a queen and shove.... probably to find out he's holding the absolute nuts.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2013
    I'd say Icm makes it a fold, how short is shorty?

    On a purely chip EV front if you have been aggro too I prob click it back and hope he spews
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited August 2013
    shorty is running 49k. This hand as haunted me all day so disgusted I couldn't fold it. I had played a very poor FT only played a few hands so looked super tight. The writing was on the wall I just turned the light off and ran straight into it!
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2013
    never folding here

    think i tank call and get it in on blank turns
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited August 2013
    If villain has been as aggro as you say, I think I'm happy to go for it. Perhaps happy is the wrong word, and I hate that clickback. As said above, flat it and look to get it in on a none spade turn. If he's flopped it then it's pretty unfortunate for us, but this looks like too good a spot to turn down vs an aggro maniac.

    If it's a nightmare turn card, we can get away and still be playing a reasonable stack.

    It is indeed a horrible spot.
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  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited August 2013
    these type of hands in these spots are prob reason why I ain`t a great mtt player don`t think I fold.

    played this player quite a lot and they are very aggro and could easily just be raising with just a qx/9x or draw so i`m torn between just getting in the now but also like what YB said flat and see a safe turn and get it in.

    also I understand that it`s big pay jump but I always like play ftw so if win this pot off this opponent gets us in a great shape to do this.

    but by sounds of it you may have run it a monster this time?
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  • TONY509TONY509 Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2013
    nothing much you could of done batkin you played really well , I disagree with your assessment of me lol NOT AGGRO.
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