why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river

diablo_pez

MIckeyBSmall blind 100.00100.004100.00pogmanBig blind 200.00300.002165.00 Your hole cards

• 9
• 9

   BBB56Fold    owenzFold    STEVEIOWCall 200.00500.002645.00diablo_pezAll-in 3075.003575.000.00MIckeyBFold    pogmanFold    STEVEIOWAll-in 2645.006220.000.00Flop  

• 4
• 5
• K

   Turn  

• 7

   River  

• A

   STEVEIOWShow

• A
• 8

   diablo_pezMuck

• 9
• 9

   diablo_pezWinPair of 9s230.00 230.00STEVEIOWWinPair of Aces5990.00 5990.00

diablo_pez

and why does STEVEIOW tell me i made a bad play....

good luck STEVEIOW you need it

diablo_pez

ROI -46% ok, so i guess that's the first part of my question answered lolololololol

dowzer

What was your thinking for going all in with the 9'S? Just curious

annie_duke

well i guess looking at that ROI it shows it doesn't work for him in the long run, but yes it does seem to be the river that stings you quite often....

chin up pez! )

diablo_pez

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river:

What was your thinking for going all in with the 9'S? Just curious
Posted by dowzer

hi there, i was on the button and was quite happy to add 500 (17%) to my stack - was my play bad/wrong?

dowzer

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river:

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river : hi there, i was on the button and was quite happy to add 500 (17%) to my stack - was my play bad/wrong?
Posted by diablo_pez

Wrong and bad are such harsh words and Im not a good enough player to say either way mate

Just seemed like a massive move with a middle pair in an unraised pot especially when you weren't short etc. Did you think of making a smaller raise to find out where you were?

dowzer

Feeling your pain - just been bust out of a deepstack with KK by someone who called a 4xBB raise with A6 off and spiked an Ace. I'm more mad at myself for not folding when the Ace came though...

diablo_pez

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river:

Feeling your pain - just been bust out of a deepstack with KK by someone who called a 4xBB raise with A6 off and spiked an Ace. I'm more mad at myself for not folding when the Ace came though...
Posted by dowzer

unlucky mate, should have stuck it allin pre-flop pez style eh ;o)

dowzer

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river:

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river : unlucky mate, should have stuck it allin pre-flop pez style eh ;o)
Posted by diablo_pez

Hindsight, eh? I wanted to get paid - I was greedy

NColley

how was this guy playing pre your all in move? have you stolen/ made the all in move alot?/ been ultra aggresive?

If you went for the standard pre flop raise, although the K came you could got him off his hand on the flop since you had position.
It just seems a lot to risk - 3k to steal 500.

diablo_pez

In Response to Re: why can't people fold rag A and why does it always hit the river:

how was this guy playing pre your all in move? have you stolen/ made the all in move alot?/ been ultra aggresive? If you went for the standard pre flop raise, although the K came you could got him off his hand on the flop since you had position. It just seems a lot to risk - 3k to steal 500.
Posted by NColley

the guy was limping into nearly every pot, i figured 4xbb raise may pot commit me anyway and i guess i got the guy allin with an inferior hand at the end of the day - i just seem to get beat by raggy A way too often, when i fold them, maybe i should just rip up the textbook and play any A on here.......dunno.......helppppppppppp

NColley

thats true, but if we want them to call with those hands we must be prepared to accept they will win 1 in 3 times !


eg, i just had JJ in BB with 1.6k button raised 4x BB to 400 and i knew he was stealing, i put him all in and he calls with K 9 off, needless to say he hit his K. I just added a note on him and will get him back in a different tourney.

maybe if i flat call his raise I could of got off the hand, but this guy had been raising previous with rag cards so I figured it was worth the move.

BANDICOOT

 Ok not realy ace rag but once again ACE on river and another good example of hooks going wrong first hand DYM

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BANDICOOT	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1990.00
Chhas	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1980.00
	Your hole cards	J J
heartski16	Fold
chipace	Fold
PUPS	Raise		40.00	70.00	1960.00
redpaddy	Call		40.00	110.00	1960.00
BANDICOOT	Raise		500.00	610.00	1490.00
Chhas	Fold
PUPS	Call		470.00	1080.00	1490.00
redpaddy	Fold
Flop
		K 6 3
BANDICOOT	Bet		500.00	1580.00	990.00
PUPS	Call		500.00	2080.00	990.00
Turn
		9
BANDICOOT	Check
PUPS	All-in		990.00	3070.00	0.00
BANDICOOT	All-in		990.00	4060.00	0.00
River
		A
BANDICOOT	Show	J J
PUPS	Show	A J
PUPS	Win	Pair of Aces	4060.00		4060.00