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short stack limpers again
craigcu12
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would it have been better to just do a raise first before risking my full stack?
the chances are if he did then jam i would be certain that he was holding a decent hand and i'm now thinking these are just too overly worried about their stacks to jam.
the chances are if he did then jam i would be certain that he was holding a decent hand and i'm now thinking these are just too overly worried about their stacks to jam.
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More inclined to check and hope to play a flop.
it's things like this
he decided to limp i did the raise with a fairly decent hand on the button with 2 decent cards but what does he do jam which i guessed meant a premium hand for sure.
here i did jam and the SB folded so i am thinking he will fold a raise too if my stack was bigger i maybe could do a raise
but with them smaller pairs i could jam only to see a limper with a decent pair and with the KQ KJ they might limp with Ax call or a pair.
I'd be a bit concerned about him limping blind on blind given his stack.
K 10 isn't a great hand to be shipping with, we still have enogh chips to see another 1 or 2 orbits of the table.
If he's been limping a lot blind on blind, then it's maybe understandable, but even then when he calls we are most times not going to be in great shape with K10.
With a stack that size, i would be looking for a spot, to Jam over a raise when we are holding a decent enough hand when we are called.
I did see on the sky TV a villain who had KK and he also limped when his stack was short.
hand 1 might have been K10o that I had on this occasion but if it was AK or AQ then I am usually going to jam but would it be best to just check with even them type of hands
If it was a not very good hand, i'd just check and see a flop hoping to improve.
If it was shortish stack on shortish stack, i would shove the same as above, if it was a marginal hand i'd just see a flop, and fold to any bet had we not improved. If they check i might try and put in a min raise, and give up 2 any resistance or call.
Just depends on dynamics and how the players been playing, but i'd always want to have a reasonable hand when shoving in case we are called. Unless we are ultra short stacked
Yes it looks a little weird the limp but we cant be messing around with flops with our stack and K10 is a decent hand BvB being so short.
A lot of times he shows up with worse hands/hands which arent far ahead of us.
Someone did this to me in my exit hand from SPT Nottingham. I had 43s in the bb with 10bb behind. Blinds were about to go up and antes were killing me. Guy limps into my BB on a new table I just sat on. I decide I'll shove as my cards are live. He calls and shows QQ. Im happy to get my chips in situations like this. Tournament poker... with blinds going up and people playing so short, these hands play themselves. Sometimes its just not meant to be.
If you take every opportunity to raise an unknown small blind limper, you will be making a profitable play. We've all had players make-up from the small blind when they're too short to be doing so. How often has it been a monster hand? One time in fifty? Less often than that? We can't get hung up on the few occasions that they actually have a big hand. The value of the chips in the middle here is too great.
The only reason not to shove is that our opponent has been habitually raising in these spots before. Now we'd have to ask ourselves how limping alters his range. We may be suspicious, especially given the short stacks. In a vacuum, however, this is going to be a weak hand a lot more often than it's a strong one and our opponent just folds when we shove.
The bottom line is that we have a hand that smashes the opponent's range and there is 'dead' money in the pot amounting to 15% of our stack. Our opponent needs to have a big hand a huge proportion of the time for this not to be a profitable shove.