Just to make a point: Of course you can price out draws if you bet full pot. The odds of a flush draw on the flop are not 33%, because those are the odds of hitting on either the turn or river. So if you call two full-pot bets, you're not calling getting the odds you need. You're only about 20% to hit on either street so you're twice calling a 20% shot getting 33% pot odds. If you call those bets you still need to get more if you hit your hand. That's no different to NLHE. I wonder how much more demand there is for online pot limit or fixed limit hold 'em than for Stud, Razz, etc... Posted by BorinLoner
In Response to Re: Pot Limit Holdem : you really dont get poker lol both betting structures require similar skillsets, just some structure specific tweaks. Posted by beaneh
Your probably right
I just don't get why you would want to play pot limit hold em instead of nl hold em.
Maybe you could enlighten my darkness and explain why no one play's pot limit hold em if it's so great
Everythig you can do in pot limit you can do in no limit, so......why would you play a game where you only have a limited amount of options.
In Response to Re: Pot Limit Holdem : Your probably right I just don't get why you would want to play pot limit hold em instead of nl hold em. Maybe you could enlighten my darkness and explain why no one play's pot limit hold em if it's so great Everythig you can do in pot limit you can do in no limit, so......why would you play a game where you only have a limited amount of options. idk i just don't get the appeal Posted by rancid
preflop you can jam as many bbs as you want in NL.
you cannot do this in PL ldo, so now realise you have to focus less on the preflop and more on the postflop.
+ you can never overshove at any stage to try and get folds so your strategies have to be more concerned with playing multiple streets.
In Response to Re: Pot Limit Holdem : preflop you can jam as many bbs as you want in NL. you cannot do this in PL ldo, so now realise you have to focus less on the preflop and more on the postflop. + you can never overshove at any stage to try and get folds so your strategies have to be more concerned with playing multiple streets. Posted by beaneh
yeah I get that, just feels like someone has come a long and taken some of your weapons away
Suppose I get why some people would prefer it and get away from the bish bash bosh poker of nl.
I assume there's no limit to how many raises can be made pre tho Bean?
So in theory you can still get as many BBs in pre as you want (if the opponent is willing) cos most spots aren't like 'I'm gonna ship 100xBB over a 3bet' so it's gonna go 3bet, 4bet, 5bet etc and usually a 4bet/5bet would not be pot sized anyway so what stops you still getting big stacks in pre?
I assume there's no limit to how many raises can be made pre tho Bean? So in theory you can still get as many BBs in pre as you want (if the opponent is willing) cos most spots aren't like 'I'm gonna ship 100xBB over a 3bet' so it's gonna go 3bet, 4bet, 5bet etc and usually a 4bet/5bet would not be pot sized anyway so what stops you still getting big stacks in pre? Posted by Lambert180
consider how often in NL you see a 4 bet then relative to that % a 5bet, then relative to that a 6bet etc.
it'd be fun to try and create 9 bet strategies for pot limit! remember it's pot limit max each bet so you could all still fling dat phoo at each other and minraise.
Refined is a good word rancid, it just removes some of the big overbets. which can be seen as good or bad for a weaker player, in that they cant just shove preflop but nor can their clever opponent bet bigger than the pot post.
In Response to Re: Pot Limit Holdem : consider how often in NL you see a 4 bet then relative to that % a 5bet, then relative to that a 6bet etc. it'd be fun to try and create 9 bet strategies for pot limit! remember it's pot limit max each bet so you could all still fling dat phoo at each other and minraise. Refined is a good word rancid, it just removes some of the big overbets. which can be seen as good or bad for a weaker player, in that they cant just shove preflop but nor can their clever opponent bet bigger than the pot post. Posted by beaneh
this is why 300bb deep pot limit hold em could be a bit intresting
Annoys me so much in PL omaha when people just jam the pot button. Well, when I say annoy I should mean to say ecstatic because 90% of players will only be potting with the nuts/nut draws.
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The irony of it all, so why play PL hold em ?
Like NL hold em with the balls ripped away
Your probably right
I just don't get why you would want to play pot limit hold em instead of nl hold em.
Maybe you could enlighten my darkness and explain why no one play's pot limit hold em if it's so great
Everythig you can do in pot limit you can do in no limit, so......why would you play a game where you only have a limited amount of options.
idk i just don't get the appeal
yeah I get that, just feels like someone has come a long and taken some of your weapons away
Suppose I get why some people would prefer it and get away from the bish bash bosh poker of nl.
pl is kinda more refined
So in theory you can still get as many BBs in pre as you want (if the opponent is willing) cos most spots aren't like 'I'm gonna ship 100xBB over a 3bet' so it's gonna go 3bet, 4bet, 5bet etc and usually a 4bet/5bet would not be pot sized anyway so what stops you still getting big stacks in pre?
this is why 300bb deep pot limit hold em could be a bit intresting