Was this a stupid fold?

gazza127

Initial raiser is new to the table so no reads.  Other guy in pot hasnt really stepped out of line much.  However does tend to bet a lot when initial raiser checks on flop, so likes to win uncontested pots really.  Havent seen many showdown hands so havnet got a great idea about his range however I know he's not tight.

Curt360x27	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£95.93
venal	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£17.76
	Your hole cards	8 7
P1	Raise		£1.50	£2.25	£70.40
gazza127	Call		£1.50	£3.75	£87.89
P2	Call		£1.50	£5.25	£75.15
tsaunders	Call		£1.50	£6.75	£114.46
Curt360x27	Fold
venal	Call		£1.00	£7.75	£16.76
Flop
		3 6 8
venal	Check
P1	Bet		£5.81	£13.56	£64.59
gazza127	Call		£5.81	£19.37	£82.08
P2	Call		£5.81	£25.18	£69.34
tsaunders	Fold
venal	Fold
Turn
		5
P1	Check
gazza127	Check
P2	All-in		£69.34	£94.52	£0.00
P1	All-in		£64.59	£159.11	£0.00
gazza127	Fold

Im just wondering what odds im getting here?  I think im around about 45% equity here if both players are holding overpairs, so 69 quid into a 159 doesnt seem like a bad price if thats the case.

However if someone has turned the set, say 55 i think my equity drops to 33% which makes the call iffy at best.  Im just wondering if I was priced in against two opponents?  P1s range definitely looks like an overpair.  P2 could be anything.

BorinLoner

Your pot odds are 30.4%, so if you think your equity is between 45% and 30%, it's a call.

The only trouble is if one of your opponents is holding a made straight or a better diamond draw. The diamonds are unlikely, though, as they'd need to have a combo-hand that fits the flop. We have the 8d and the 7d, so what can they have?

It may be a fairly marginal situation but probably a profitable call. It becomes much more profitable if we have strong reads that they're both likely to be playing overpairs, as you do. Even if they have our outs covered some of the time, it's likely a +EV call against their combined ranges.

F_Ivanovic

Yeah I think you have to call here. Against 1 it's a snap fold but vs 2 our pot odds price us into call. We hold a blocker to the nuts so our straight outs should be good nearly always, as will our flush outs. (Other than A3dd, it's hard to see what diamond draw any of them can have)

How quickly did P1 call btw? 

Lambert180

If you're rolled properly then it's a call imo. If you're not rolled, don't play 50NL

gazza127

In Response to Re: Was this a stupid fold?:

Yeah I think you have to call here. Against 1 it's a snap fold but vs 2 our pot odds price us into call. We hold a blocker to the nuts so our straight outs should be good nearly always, as will our flush outs. (Other than A3dd, it's hard to see what diamond draw any of them can have) How quickly did P1 call btw? 
Posted by F_Ivanovic

P1 snap called.