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MTT's/ Value betting/ What would your bet sizing be on the river?

LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
edited September 2013 in The Poker Clinic
In this hand here, it's ok to the river, but i checked behind.

Someone pointed out to me last week that often I miss out on value on the river (with quite strong hands).

I suppose sometime's i'm thinking do they have the card that can beat me i'll take the cheap show down.

This must be a mistake right? Costing me money in cash and value in tournies?

We have to 100% be betting here for value, if they do reraise after checking the turn we can always fold/ re-evaluate?

Hand 2, I decide i need to put in a value bet, i'm pretty confident i have the best hand so have no problem putting in a bet. When opponent shoves, i honestly don't think he has an 8 (could be wrong), i don't want to call of my stack for a chop pot, i doubt he is bluffin, but he could be. I'm still happy enough i stuck in the value bet and folded to the shove, prob was a chop, but was not worth it.

Just found another example, this must be a bit of a leak.

Hand 3,
yeah this hand here again on the river i check behind 2 pair, i'm thinking it's such a wet board, he must have a straight and he's slow playing it! When he checks most times, i can comfortably be value betting here.

fastandy29 Small blind  15.00 15.00 5725.00
WHEELS7161 Big blind  30.00 45.00 5345.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
verity01 Fold     
FlyingDagg Fold     
touchwood Fold     
LARSON7 Raise  120.00 165.00 7970.00
fastandy29 Call  105.00 270.00 5620.00
WHEELS7161 Call  90.00 360.00 5255.00
Flop
   
  • 8
  • Q
  • 8
     
fastandy29 Check     
WHEELS7161 Bet  60.00 420.00 5195.00
LARSON7 Raise  300.00 720.00 7670.00
fastandy29 Call  300.00 1020.00 5320.00
WHEELS7161 Fold     
Turn
   
  • 3
     
fastandy29 Check     
LARSON7 Bet  780.00 1800.00 6890.00
fastandy29 Call  780.00 2580.00 4540.00
River
   
  • K
     
fastandy29 Check     
LARSON7 Check
FILBAR Sit out     
stevied79 Small blind  50.00 50.00 8940.00
LARSON7 Big blind  100.00 150.00 8625.00
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • 7
     
danny350 Call  100.00 250.00 10608.75
bryan1953 Fold     
norfolk803 Fold     
stevied79 Fold     
LARSON7 Check     
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 8
  • J
     
LARSON7 Check     
danny350 Check     
Turn
   
  • 6
     
LARSON7 Bet  125.00 375.00 8500.00
danny350 Call  125.00 500.00 10483.75
River
   
  • 6
     
LARSON7 Bet  375.00 875.00 8125.00
danny350 All-in  10483.75 11358.75 0.00
LARSON7 Fold
bryan1953 Small blind  100.00 100.00 7557.50
deames Big blind  200.00 300.00 20910.00
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 9
     
FILBAR Fold     
stevied79 Call  200.00 500.00 10165.00
LARSON7 Call  200.00 700.00 8825.00
danny350 Fold     
bryan1953 Fold     
deames Check     
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 5
  • 6
     
deames Check     
stevied79 Check     
LARSON7 Bet  350.00 1050.00 8475.00
deames Fold     
stevied79 Call  350.00 1400.00 9815.00
Turn
   
  • J
     
stevied79 Check     
LARSON7 Bet  600.00 2000.00 7875.00
stevied79 Call  600.00 2600.00 9215.00
River
   
  • 10
     
stevied79 Check     
LARSON7 Check

Comments

  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited September 2013

    What is an optimal bet size for value in these hands on the river?

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2013
    Hand 1 - nut 2pr, beating lots of hands they'll call off with, they prob even reship with KQ :) I go like 1800

    Hand 2 - Not sure I bet the turn. You're river size looks fine and obv it's a bet/fold

    Hand 3 - Think if you're gonna v bet this river it can't be too big and we're folding to a raise. Maybe 1400
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