why does the big stack always win with the worst starting hand?

mac24

happens so often its not funny anymore. it amazes me that they can make a call pre flop with the garbage in their hands unless they know or are bots?

a00rock

I agree with you to a certain point. I think the BountyHunter mentality encourages players that are stacked to make the pre flop calls with almost any2 indeed I have made some very questionable calls with a decent stack in BHs and got there. When I play other variations I have to remember to switch this mentality off but I am also sure that some players will make these calls regardless of the game. No Bots on here mate the programmers have not got that far yet ;-)

hhyftrftdr

I was gonna post zzzzzzzzzzzz but DoubleAAA might get all upset on OP's behalf. 

OP, you want big stacks to make poor calls. You want medium stacks to make poor calls. And you also want short stacks to make poor calls. 

Talon

  Ok a few points to be said about his.

 Firstly they dont always win, you just remember the times when they do and forget the times that they dont

 Secondly they have earned the right to call any bet with any 2 crads by having the big stack. Plus you can play the game anyway you want in the first place.

 Thirdly the act of calling these bet with a worse hand is not always even close to being bad play. Have seen people calling shoves with 23 and it has been the right decision irrespective of outcome.

 Fourthly i want a table full of people making bad decisions. The game becomes easier when the opponents make extreme luck their only weapon

DAVEYZZ

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happens so often its not funny anymore. it amazes me that they can make a call pre flop with the garbage in their hands unless they know or are bots?
Posted by mac24

It doesn't ......and if was a bot why on earth would you're set it up to make losing calls?...

P.s. bots Don't work!

DOHHHHHHH

Pretty tough to get knocked out by someone with a shorter stack than you.

5 tournaments is a miniscule sample.

Pokerscout.com is rigged.

Slipwater

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I have played five tournaments in five days....I have lost each one...Posted by mac24

Mac, much better players than you or I, have gone FIFTY tournaments without winning.

Jac35

Ok, let's just suspend reality and say you're right.

The big stack always wins and pokerscout is correct in giving Sky the worst possible rating.

Why then, would a sensible chip like yourself play on this site?

Slipwater

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free play and free rolls only from here on in...im not putting any cash into this account. you can check poker scout yourself....im not making this up 
Posted by mac24

Lol.

Just lol.

DOHHHHHHH

Who do you think writes the reviews that rate the sites on pokerscout?

It's compiled by 'bad' losing players who refuse to take responsibility for their bad play and look for other people to blame.

For example, I checked out the site after reading this thread, the most recent entry on Sat12th Oct', 2013...............................



this site is so biased towards aggressive players I cant tell you....if u are in a hand against one of the top 10 chip leaders just FOLD - you CANNOT WIN!!!!

last hand in case - my A6 suited was called pre flop by the overall chip leader, who turned over 2-4...flop came down with a 2-2

next tourney, 1 got 3-8 off in the big blind - chip leader only flat called. flop was 3-3-6, great I got trips. turn was the 8 so i hit boat and pushed....chip leader calls and turns 8-8. no pre flop rise with a pocket pair which would have got me off the hand and still I lose to chip leader.

how sky can get away with this is beyond me....you have to wonder if this is fraud?




.........

I'm guessing this is you?

Jac35

Dohhhh the sleuth.

DOHHHHHHH

Fess up Jaccco!

This was you last time you had a bad night on the dyms wasn't it!

	"I have played 3 DYM games tonight, each time finishing 4th! Each time i have gone all in to save myself from ruin with high same suited cards, each of the THREE times i have lost to an unbelievable straight! I can take 1 or maybe 2 as a rare coincidence, but THREE times in a row!!!!! No way, i will be quitting very soon!"

Love this site!

Loooooooooool.

Love it even more now.

"I used to play on Sky, and I was a well-knownish grinder at 2p/4p, regularly destroying the fish and in the process disagreeing with the bellends on the forum, I quickly got a reputation that noone liked me, as I was always getting on people's nerves (usually on purpose) on the forums. In particular I used to have a go at Lambert180 because he's a little Sky kissass and DrRunGood for putting ridiculous beats on me then posting on his 'diary' and everyone telling him his play was awesome when it wasn't.

I self banned my account after seeing some unbelievable things there. "

mac24

that one wasn't me at least i'm not the only one who has had a bad experience

BorinLoner

"It's rigged and I will be quitting soon!"

I won't be quitting right away, obv... That would be silly.

Jac35

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Fess up Jaccco! This was you last time you had a bad night on the dyms wasn't it!     "I have played 3 DYM games tonight, each time finishing 4th! Each time i have gone all in to save myself from ruin with high same suited cards, each of the THREE times i have lost to an unbelievable straight! I can take 1 or maybe 2 as a rare coincidence, but THREE times in a row!!!!! No way, i will be quitting very soon!" Love this site! Loooooooooool. Love it even more now. "I used to play on Sky, and I was a well-knownish grinder at 2p/4p, regularly destroying the fish and in the process disagreeing with the bellends on the forum, I quickly got a reputation that noone liked me, as I was always getting on people's nerves (usually on purpose) on the forums. In particular I used to have a go at Lambert180 because he's a little Sky kissass and DrRunGood for putting ridiculous beats on me then posting on his 'diary' and everyone telling him his play was awesome when it wasn't. I self banned my account after seeing some unbelievable things there. "
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Oh wow, that's brilliant Dohhhh

It's very scary but you could make a really good case for it being me.

Dym loser [x]

Moaning g1t [x]

Overuse of commas and exclamation marks [x]

Was it me? Not sure, don't think so, wait a minute, when did I last play drunk? Aarrgghh

splashies

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Fess up Jaccco! This was you last time you had a bad night on the dyms wasn't it!     "I have played 3 DYM games tonight, each time finishing 4th! Each time i have gone all in to save myself from ruin with high same suited cards, each of the THREE times i have lost to an unbelievable straight! I can take 1 or maybe 2 as a rare coincidence, but THREE times in a row!!!!! No way, i will be quitting very soon!" Love this site! Loooooooooool. Love it even more now. "I used to play on Sky, and I was a well-knownish grinder at 2p/4p, regularly destroying the fish and in the process disagreeing with the bellends on the forum, I quickly got a reputation that noone liked me, as I was always getting on people's nerves (usually on purpose) on the forums. In particular I used to have a go at Lambert180 because he's a little Sky kissass and DrRunGood for putting ridiculous beats on me then posting on his 'diary' and everyone telling him his play was awesome when it wasn't. I self banned my account after seeing some unbelievable things there. "
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I've narrowed it down to 35 people atm.

Jac35

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In Response to Re: why does the big stack always win with the worst starting hand? : I've narrowed it down to 3500 people atm.
Posted by splashies

Fyp

craigcu12

here some hand for you cry baby

craigcu12	Small blind		20.00	20.00	2660.00
Chonka	Big blind		40.00	60.00	3420.00
	Your hole cards	A K
epicgame	Raise		80.00	140.00	3455.00
ewens05	Raise		400.00	540.00	1845.00
gordonsg	Fold
nick7575	Fold
craigcu12	All-in		2660.00	3200.00	0.00
Chonka	Fold
epicgame	Fold
ewens05	All-in		1845.00	5045.00	0.00
craigcu12	Unmatched bet		435.00	4610.00	435.00
craigcu12	Show	A K
ewens05	Show	9 9
Flop
		10 2 7
Turn
		8
River
		5
ewens05	Win	Pair of 9s	4610.00		4610.00

craigcu12	Small blind		100.00	100.00	2765.00
baldini101	Big blind		200.00	300.00	6532.50
	Your hole cards	9 K
bella996	Fold
ipe3	Call		200.00	500.00	6650.00
FROSTYJACK	Fold
craigcu12	All-in		2765.00	3265.00	0.00
baldini101	Fold
ipe3	Call		2665.00	5930.00	3985.00
craigcu12	Show	9 K
ipe3	Show	J K
Flop
		5 A 2
Turn
		9
River
		9
craigcu12	Win	Three 9s	5930.00		5930.00

1234wow777	Small blind		50.00	50.00	2950.00
jt2005	Big blind		100.00	150.00	1600.00
	Your hole cards	10 9
MissKeBaB	Fold
craigcu12	Call		100.00	250.00	1900.00
Resonator1	Fold
kennet1962	Call		100.00	350.00	3675.00
1234wow777	Call		50.00	400.00	2900.00
jt2005	Check
Flop
		4 8 J
1234wow777	Check
jt2005	Check
craigcu12	Check
kennet1962	Check
Turn
		7
1234wow777	Check
jt2005	Check
craigcu12	Bet		100.00	500.00	1800.00
kennet1962	Raise		700.00	1200.00	2975.00
1234wow777	Fold
jt2005	Fold
craigcu12	All-in		1800.00	3000.00	0.00
kennet1962	Call		1200.00	4200.00	1775.00
craigcu12	Show	10 9
kennet1962	Show	7 2
River
		6
craigcu12	Win	Flush to the Jack	4200.00		4200.00

joamejo	Small blind		30.00	30.00	2300.00
jimmyjazze	Big blind		60.00	90.00	2760.00
	Your hole cards	Q J
batfink336	Call		60.00	150.00	5150.00
blueberr27	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		180.00	330.00	1730.00
joamejo	Fold
jimmyjazze	Fold
batfink336	Call		120.00	450.00	5030.00
Flop
		10 4 9
batfink336	Check
craigcu12	Bet		180.00	630.00	1550.00
batfink336	Raise		360.00	990.00	4670.00
craigcu12	Call		180.00	1170.00	1370.00
Turn
		5
batfink336	Check
craigcu12	All-in		1370.00	2540.00	0.00
batfink336	Raise		2740.00	5280.00	1930.00
batfink336	Unmatched bet		1370.00	3910.00	3300.00
batfink336	Show	Q 10
craigcu12	Show	Q J
River
		8
craigcu12	Win	Straight to the Queen	3910.00		3910.00

craigcu12	Small blind		50.00	50.00	525.00
jojo101	Big blind		100.00	150.00	1650.00
	Your hole cards	A Q
daveybazz	Call		100.00	250.00	700.00
paleface	All-in		162.50	412.50	0.00
TREBOR12	All-in		1662.50	2075.00	0.00
westland03	All-in		1050.00	3125.00	0.00
craigcu12	All-in		525.00	3650.00	0.00
jojo101	Fold
daveybazz	Fold
TREBOR12	Unmatched bet		612.50	3037.50	612.50
craigcu12	Show	A Q
paleface	Show	6 6
TREBOR12	Show	2 2
westland03	Show	Q K
Flop
		4 10 7
Turn
		Q
River
		9
craigcu12	Win	Pair of Queens	2087.50		2087.50
westland03	Win	Pair of Queens	950.00		950.00

clingon17	Small blind		150.00	150.00	1100.00
craigcu12	Big blind		300.00	450.00	600.00
	Your hole cards	A Q
stacei	Fold
STAR99	Fold
geoffb54	Call		300.00	750.00	4425.00
clingon17	Call		150.00	900.00	950.00
craigcu12	All-in		600.00	1500.00	0.00
geoffb54	Call		600.00	2100.00	3825.00
clingon17	Fold
craigcu12	Show	A Q
geoffb54	Show	6 6
Flop
		2 9 9
Turn
		A
River
		8
craigcu12	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 9s	2100.00		2100.00

hhyftrftdr

That site is hilarious. 

LARSON7

lol just seen this thread, Quality

Lambert180

I'm famous