In Response to Re: Going to start playing more MTTs, advice please? : Now look--- you have annoyed Flyingdagg--- and just when I was about to give you the best advice you ever saw ----apologise and pacify now, or I will have no more to say on the matter! Posted by oynutter
No not annoyed at all it seemed odd that you would ask on here for advice regarding another site but maybe you don't have other avenues open to you. You explained how you can't play on here now but I have to say from 6 months to 5 years is one **** of a misclick lol.
In Response to Re: Going to start playing more MTTs, advice please? : why would he want to really? you arnt exactly spoiled for choice when it comes to tournaments are you. Posted by THEROCK573
I am spoilt for choice here! ---- especially in the evenings --- bh--timed-- deepstack--freezeout--rebuy--satellite--big ones--- small ones--- sensible ones---- silly ones---- and I am hard to please (mentally)
I've tried loads of times, talked to online support and they say every single time that a self exclusion is non-reversible so i'll just have to wait until the period ends in about 4 and a quarter years time haha.
DONT play BHs on there imo. As far as I know they're all flat payouts on the heads. It's bad enough on Sky imo that you have to see 50% of the prizepool being put somewhere (on people's heads) where you're never gonna see most of it again but at least progressive bounties make some of the money flow through to the later stages, it's even worse with flat payouts. I.e. each head might be $1 and it doesn't change no matter how many people you've knocked out, so the value of trying to knock people out on a FT for instance (in terms of their bounty) is non-existent compared to the prize jumps Imagine a 400 runner tourney with $1 on each head... even if you win the whole MTT, I reckon it would be pretty sick if you got 20 heads in total. That means $380 of the prizepool is just completely gone. Posted by Lambert180
The big differencre Paul is that 'their' bh tourneys only take 20% of the tourney fee as the bounty so the payout is dramatically weighted towards positional finish, which kind of negates the argument about progressive bounties because the money has already 'flowed through' to the later stages, and with the money being 'up top' knocking someone out at the final table guarantees a significant prize increase, but with progressive bounties, its only significant if the villan has plenty of bounties.
The payout follows their normal structure so its no flatter than a freeze out, and still richly rewards the best finishers
I know but still leaves a chunk of the prizepool missing which is why I prefer non-BHs.
Same example of 400 runners andd $1 bounty. I think to be a $1 bounty it would be $4 into the proper prizepool (and then rake on top). I'd much rather have a $2k prizepool, than a $1.6k prizepool just cos I might get $6-7 along the way.
Guess this is just an issue with all BHs though tbh.
Yeah I agree that a straight freezeout provides the better payout, I was offering a different view on which type of B/H offers a better payment structure, personally I prefer the steadier play that it encouraged by not having progressive bounties.
Think the main thing i struggle with is when the bubble finally bursts and i have less than 20 bigs, i just can't seem to get that double up to give me a chance of going further. So many times in freerolls and twice today i've made it made it past the bubble and either min-cashed or a little more. Just can't seem to win a flip at that stage lol.
Cheers larson, i'll have a look. Think the main thing i struggle with is when the bubble finally bursts and i have less than 20 bigs, i just can't seem to get that double up to give me a chance of going further. So many times in freerolls and twice today i've made it made it past the bubble and either min-cashed or a little more. Just can't seem to win a flip at that stage lol. Posted by skeg01
All too often, players tighten up approaching the bubble, then suddenly get too aggro/spewy once it has burst. Spin it round; play the bubble in an aggressive manner (table dependent of course) and then once everyone is in the monies, avoid getting into marginal spots too often.
In Response to Re: Going to start playing more MTTs, advice please? : All too often, players tighten up approaching the bubble, then suddenly get too aggro/spewy once it has burst. Spin it round; play the bubble in an aggressive manner (table dependent of course) and then once everyone is in the monies, avoid getting into marginal spots too often. Posted by hhyftrftdr
THIS ^^^
Round the bubble everyone gets tight = we should get aggro
Bubble bursts, everyone has cashed and more gambly trying to spin up and win = we tighten up
Sometimes the issue isn't specifically the bubble but the middle stages. Often people struggle round the bubble because they haven't been aggressive enough in the mid stages. We wanna be building up a big stack in the mid stages so that when the bubble approaches we can be ruthless. It's pretty hard to put people under max pressure when you have a small stack yourself.
I'll keep that in mind, cheers. I do try and be aggro in the middle stages to try and build a stack but its difficult picking the right spots to be aggro haha, still a lot of calling stations/people who call with atc etc in that stage, i just hate bluffing in general in micro stakes cash games or tournaments lol.
i usually get to the bubble stage with around 20-30 bigs. And by that stage most of the people left in the tournament are good players who are capable of folding a pair or a gutshot etc haha. I know i want to play against people who are incapable of folding any pair as we can take their chips in the long run etc, but it makes a better game of poker when i'm playing against good players, i enjoy it more
Skeg I read your old diary where you mainly played micro cash and you constantly referred to the fact you found it hard to concentrate for more than 1hr indeed many of your sessions were around 30 minutes long. How then are you going to cope with multiple tournaments that could last 5 or 6 hrs at a time if you go deep?
You are quite successful at micro cash and with the right application I would suggest that this is where you could make the best return on your investment. 1 mistake or 1 bad river and your out of a tournament where in cash you just reload and you can quit when you like.
Personally I love the tournaments but play for fun/entertainment, if you are going to grind the tournaments then the first thing you need to do is update your equipment from that old laptop you refer to also a better internet connection if possible. At least then you could play when you want and not have to share with the rest of your family who may get rather frustrated if you are on it constantly lol.
Just my thoughts Skeg good luck in your endeavours. Ray
Firstly, i'd like to say i have no idea why i haven't posted on here for a while, i've been on this every day reading other people's diaries etc just couldn't be bothered to log in and post again until now lol. (Good luck to lambert180 btw on going pro, your diary is always a great read) Anyway, i still play regularly (i'm on pokerstars again now lol) and i was thinking i would like to play more MTTs since it is getting a bit repetitive just playing cash all the time, with just a couple freerolls a week (not saying i don't like doing it, its always good fun) . Just time to mix it up a little bit i think! My starting bankroll on pokerstars is £200 ($320 i think?) so what MTTs should i be looking to play? I've not got much idea about bankroll management when it comes to tournaments. Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks. Posted by skeg01
I play alot of the 4.50 180 seaters non turbos !!!!, the fields r pretty soft and they have an ok structure, its hard to go deep in the bigger fields so I would put alot of these into your grind along with a few of the bigger tournies with the bigger fields, gl whatever you do
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Same example of 400 runners andd $1 bounty. I think to be a $1 bounty it would be $4 into the proper prizepool (and then rake on top). I'd much rather have a $2k prizepool, than a $1.6k prizepool just cos I might get $6-7 along the way.
Guess this is just an issue with all BHs though tbh.
Think the main thing i struggle with is when the bubble finally bursts and i have less than 20 bigs, i just can't seem to get that double up to give me a chance of going further. So many times in freerolls and twice today i've made it made it past the bubble and either min-cashed or a little more. Just can't seem to win a flip at that stage lol.
As Sky regularly mention, very very few sites have their own forum cos it's a pain in the ____ to manage.
Round the bubble everyone gets tight = we should get aggro
Bubble bursts, everyone has cashed and more gambly trying to spin up and win = we tighten up
Sometimes the issue isn't specifically the bubble but the middle stages. Often people struggle round the bubble because they haven't been aggressive enough in the mid stages. We wanna be building up a big stack in the mid stages so that when the bubble approaches we can be ruthless. It's pretty hard to put people under max pressure when you have a small stack yourself.
i usually get to the bubble stage with around 20-30 bigs. And by that stage most of the people left in the tournament are good players who are capable of folding a pair or a gutshot etc haha. I know i want to play against people who are incapable of folding any pair as we can take their chips in the long run etc, but it makes a better game of poker when i'm playing against good players, i enjoy it more
You are quite successful at micro cash and with the right application I would suggest that this is where you could make the best return on your investment. 1 mistake or 1 bad river and your out of a tournament where in cash you just reload and you can quit when you like.
Personally I love the tournaments but play for fun/entertainment, if you are going to grind the tournaments then the first thing you need to do is update your equipment from that old laptop you refer to also a better internet connection if possible. At least then you could play when you want and not have to share with the rest of your family who may get rather frustrated if you are on it constantly lol.
Just my thoughts Skeg good luck in your endeavours. Ray