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DYM AA facing flop raise

DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
edited October 2013 in The Poker Clinic
2nd hand, no reads on villian, what we doing?






      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      

      
      
      
      
      
  
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    gunmandax Small blind   10.00 10.00 2000.00
    jdsallstar Big blind   20.00 30.00 1980.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
    EvilPingu Fold        
    BRY15 Call   20.00 50.00 2050.00
    DoubleAAA Raise   80.00 130.00 1910.00
    x Call   80.00 210.00 1850.00
    gunmandax Fold        
    jdsallstar Fold        
    BRY15 Call   60.00 270.00 1990.00
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • Q
    • J
    		     
    BRY15 Check        
    DoubleAAA Bet   140.00 410.00 1770.00
    x Raise   340.00 750.00 1510.00
    BRY15 Fold        
    DoubleAAA ?
    		    340.00  750.00  1510.00
               
               
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  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited October 2013
    Are you asking for advice?
    Or are you just going to end up telling us how everyone is wrong and you were right?
    What was the buy-in? Pretty important.

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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: DYM AA facing flop raise:
    Are you asking for advice? Or are you just going to end up telling us how everyone is wrong and you were right? What was the buy-in? Pretty important.
    Posted by Jac35
    I have never said anyone is wrong, I just give my own opinion. This post I'm asking advice like a couple of other posts, it's a sticky situation. It's a £5.50 DYM.
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,611
    edited October 2013
    Call flop bet. Check turn. Reassess.
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  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited October 2013
    Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh.

    Quite an awkward one with no notes on opponent.
    I think I'm doing a fold here.
    There are very few turn cards we like. We have to expect him to fire again on the turn whatever comes down.
    Eg Hit our ace, completes a straight. 2 comes and presumably if we're calling flop, we're gonna have to call turn with this card.
    Still got plenty, let it go and let the others make mistakes at this level in my opinion.

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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,611
    edited October 2013
    He could be chasing a flush Jac, so he is raising so that you will check the turn to him, and if that isn't a club he then checks it back for the free river card to see if he hits.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited October 2013
    Raise half stack pre, then fold to a shove. Don't wanna get carried away with AA pre.
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: DYM AA facing flop raise:
    Raise half stack pre, then fold to a shove. Don't wanna get carried away with AA pre.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    When will you grow up? Aside from that,I haven't seen you post any hands. You must be playing perfect poker.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited October 2013
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    TRIP5 Small blind 40.00 40.00 4695.00
    Wizzlet Big blind 80.00 120.00 6035.00
      Your hole cards
    8
    8
         
    hhyftrftdr Raise 160.00 280.00 5281.00
    bbMike Fold
    imber Fold
    mrs_balti Fold
    TRIP5 Fold
    Wizzlet Fold
    hhyftrftdr Muck
    hhyftrftdr Win 200.00 5481.00
    hhyftrftdr Return 80.00 0.00 5561.00

    Should I have raised half my stack?

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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited October 2013
    Stop squabbling you two or I'm calling your parents!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2013

    Clear fold I would have thought?
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2013
    Yeah seems a pretty easy fold in a DYM to me. If we call this, we have to call down on most turns and rivs which is probably not gonna be good longterm in this format.

    Have you manually edited the HH cos why does the pot size not change inbetween him raising (750) and you calling the raise (still 750)???
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: DYM AA facing flop raise:
    Yeah seems a pretty easy fold in a DYM to me. If we call this, we have to call down on most turns and rivs which is probably not gonna be good longterm in this format. Have you manually edited the HH cos why does the pot size not change inbetween him raising (750) and you calling the raise (still 750)???
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yes edited so I could put a ? Next to my name and then I filled out the same pot and balance. I'll post later what happened,just wanted thoughts on this.
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  • gazza127gazza127 Member Posts: 2,156
    edited October 2013
    Totally villain dependant... yet you have no reads.

    Not sure what you want any of us to say tbh.


    Fold?  Call?  They're both options.
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited October 2013
    Yeah I fold this without any reads.
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: DYM AA facing flop raise:
    Totally villain dependant... yet you have no reads. Not sure what you want any of us to say tbh. Fold?  Call?  They're both options.
    Posted by gazza127
    Well I think it's quite clear what im asking really.  Im asking what would you do in this situation given you have no reads on villian.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited October 2013
    I need some maths before I can make a decision.


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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2013
    FWIW I folded. Reason I posted this was I had wondered afterwards if perhaps I should of called the flop raise and re-evaluated the turn as slipwater advised as he could be doing this with a draw. Reason I folded was as like jacs said, there would be a bunch of turn cards that we wouldn't want to see.
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