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If you were 1 of the mentors....

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  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited December 2009
    Freechips basically put what i was going to say regarding "high stakes players"

    You realise that 99% of the high stakes players started off with a very small bankroll just like you all ? i started with £25 3 years ago now - if your good enough you will progress through the stakes.

    I persoanlly don't like the fact people are already against players such as will brewin being selected - yes he might play 1/2 cash and win a fair bit but in comparison...everybody on this site plays low stakes poker apart from £2.5/5 cash which is considered medium - high stakes 25/50 !

    I don't rate my chances at getting in this thing based on my last 2 months form but when are the players are selected. I will vote for who in my opinion is the BEST TOTAL PLAYER. After all its upto us the players to select the player who is just that. That player may well be Will brewin for example but you have to respect how much work he has put in to get that opportunity and who he has beat to get thier. Some players play some sick sick hours because its thier Jobs -

    I for one shall be playing mad hours just to try stake my claim in this even though im on one of those awful runs lately. If hand historys are searched etc im sure thats my glimmer of hope, Just dont be biased to who you play with or like personally. No one doubts the best player on this site may well play .02/.04 cash or 30p DYMs but they have to put some effort into to achieve being noticed also.

    Another small rant kinda but its my views.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    Freechips basically put what i was going to say regarding "high stakes players" You realise that 99% of the high stakes players started off with a very small bankroll just like you all ? i started with £25 3 years ago now - if your good enough you will progress through the stakes. I persoanlly don't like the fact people are already against players such as will brewin being selected - yes he might play 1/2 cash and win a fair bit but in comparison...everybody on this site plays low stakes poker apart from £2.5/5 cash which is considered medium - high stakes 25/50 ! I don't rate my chances at getting in this thing based on my last 2 months form but when are the players are selected. I will vote for who in my opinion is the BEST TOTAL PLAYER. After all its upto us the players to select the player who is just that. That player may well be Will brewin for example but you have to respect how much work he has put in to get that opportunity and who he has beat to get thier. Some players play some sick sick hours because its thier Jobs - I for one shall be playing mad hours just to try stake my claim in this even though im on one of those awful runs lately. If hand historys are searched etc im sure thats my glimmer of hope, Just dont be biased to who you play with or like personally. No one doubts the best player on this site may well play .02/.04 cash or 30p DYMs but they have to put some effort into to achieve being noticed also. Another small rant kinda but its my views.
    Posted by Nutter5932

    Same here, and that includes Will Brewin imo

    Good post m8

  • BigBlusterBigBluster Member Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    how could it be someone playing 30p stt if ur good you will move up in stakes and dont say they cant aford it coz if they where any good they would be winning so would be able to move up. 
    Posted by freechips1
    I wouldn't judge people's wealth by the stakes they choose to play cards at!
    There are a few millionaires who play £5-10 tourneys on this site, just for the fun of it. The stakes you play at are a matter of personal choice and nothing more. Did you know that Bill Gates plays golf for ONE DOLLAR and no more, when he's made over 10 million dollars in the time it takes him to complete the round?

    As an aside, it really makes me laugh when a player without a pot to fill urinally, calls a millionaire an idiot and a fool over a £2 pound game of cards!
  • phil12ukphil12uk Member Posts: 2,856
    edited December 2009

    What a great poser of a question. I will name 6 people who i am wary of when against them as my 6 :

    flashflush, nutter, sharksbite, anjie, scotty and solack.

    Could have named lots more and thanks for those who voted for me so far.

  • mrsmarleymrsmarley Member Posts: 57
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors.... : The problem with the higher stakes players is that they all play each other! What's the point being the 6th best player on the site when the only 5 who play with you are better than you? And what's the point of being the best player on the site if you only play with the 2nd and 3rd best, where you are 2% better than them and the rake is 10%? The higher stakes players may be good, but most of them are certainly not that smart!
    Posted by BigBluster
    i totally agree with you,i've watched these players for hours and mostly they are just swapping money around untill aces v kings come up and someone takes the lot..
  • Uzi_loverUzi_lover Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2009
    There are a lot a good players on here my top 6 would be

    ANJIE1970
    Nutter5932
    GREGHOGG
    Solack
    Tallboy
    phil12uk

    Never like being on the same table as these guys

  • dantb10dantb10 Member Posts: 583
    edited December 2009

    I would just like to second what nutter and gregg have said previously. I too started with about £10 about three years ago, and have worked so hard in improving my game through experience and studying strategy. I completely agree that just because a player might be playing 500nl, this doesnt make him a better player that a 30p dym player.

    But i would hate to think that a successful player such as ben or will would be overlooked because they have been successful. I feel if a player has shown the dedication and commitment to improve and has grinded their way up to a certain limit then would this not be the perfect criteria that the judges would be looking for?

    I would think that most players on the site who play at any blind level with varying bankrolls would love to win this competition as i would think very few players are rolled for $10,000 tourneys!

    I wish every player at all limits the best of luck.

    Dan

  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD Member Posts: 5,571
    edited December 2009
    I can't believe no-one has chosen me yet...

    I won the Open! Back in October.

    I doubled up in my first ever game of Omaha the other night. A £5 DYM.

    I also earned £5 in the last Cash for Points bonus.

    Come on people, the answer's right in front of you!

    ;)
  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,619
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    I can't believe no-one has chosen me yet... I won the Open! Back in October. I doubled up in my first ever game of Omaha the other night. A £5 DYM. I also earned £5 in the last Cash for Points bonus. Come on people, the answer's right in front of you! ;)
    Posted by RICHORFORD
    You forgot to mention that TKO tourney Rich....   :)
  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD Member Posts: 5,571
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors.... : You forgot to mention that TKO tourney Rich....   :)
    Posted by MAXALLY
    TK- what tournament? Nope, never heard of it mate...
  • BigBlusterBigBluster Member Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    I would just like to second what nutter and gregg have said previously. I too started with about £10 about three years ago, and have worked so hard in improving my game through experience and studying strategy. I completely agree that just because a player might be playing 500nl, this doesnt make him a better player that a 30p dym player. But i would hate to think that a successful player such as ben or will would be overlooked because they have been successful. I feel if a player has shown the dedication and commitment to improve and has grinded their way up to a certain limit then would this not be the perfect criteria that the judges would be looking for? I would think that most players on the site who play at any blind level with varying bankrolls would love to win this competition as i would think very few players are rolled for $10,000 tourneys! I wish every player at all limits the best of luck. Dan
    Posted by dantb10
    I think the key point that I and others are trying to make is that the limit you play at doesn't necessarily indicate much. There are £100/£200 tables on this site - plenty of us could sit down there tomorrow if we so desired, but for whatever reason we choose to play ten quid MTTs or 50p SnGs or 4p cash.

    I really do hope they don't pick the usual suspects. I hope they go for some unknowns AND people who contribute to this site in some wider way.


  • BigBlusterBigBluster Member Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    There are a lot a good players on here my top 6 would be ANJIE1970 Nutter5932 GREGHOGG Solack Tallboy phil12uk Never like being on the same table as these guys
    Posted by Uzi_lover
    Not bothered about any of these guys because I know them. I'm sure none of them lose any sleep about facing me either!

    I can cope with these guys because they all know what they're doing. It's the complete wild cards I struggle with. I bet they would all say the same about facing each other.

  • OnlyOneCTOnlyOneCT Member Posts: 1,181
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors.... : TK- what tournament? Nope, never heard of it mate...
    Posted by RICHORFORD
    You don't remember Leg 2 of TKO where i went through 30 of Tikay's Gnomes by myself for Team Orford with a virtual sledgehammer and i won Leg 2 of TKO all by myself but the team got well and truly screwed in the team event by some bad numeracy by the accounting adjudicators lol!
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited December 2009

    Personally I would search to see who has won the most over last few months as long as they have played enough hands to make the results useful. There is no other way of judging players as problem with Poker is you can quite easily look like a genius or complete fool just looking at a few hands, In poker long term profit or loss is the scorecard.

    It would be really interesting to see exactly how much regs make, we can guess but ultimatly thats all it is. We may be able to one day if HEM is ever enabled on the site but theres other threads to debate pros/cons of that.

    I have already had a phone call regarding total player and talking to a couple of regs in the games I play they have too.

  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited December 2009
    Wow really tough but I have huge respect for quite a few lower stakes and higher for that matter.

    Really impressed with the APAT qualifiers, standard of play in that was pretty high.

    My top 10 really are:

    Tallboy, GregHogg, Kaidus, Irishrover, Massie29, Sharksbite, Solack, OnlyOneCT, TheSwiss, BigShann

    Equally

    MickJenn1, Phil12UK, Flashflush, Dantb10, Gerrard9, Gliterbabe, Karlluke, Delta, Nutter5932, TheSaw, Mike1975, Uzilover, Bennydip2, Razorkev.

    Lower stakes - Margatemaf, jamielou, Destiny33.

    Dave
  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited December 2009
    Congratulations AJS - get playing some deepstacks - guessing the 110 on a sunday night for your tourny game :)
  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs Member Posts: 613
    edited December 2009
    lolufold, launder, ajs4385, sharksbite, Glitterbabe

    questionable lists ITT
  • BigBlusterBigBluster Member Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    lolufold, launder, ajs4385, sharksbite, Glitterbabe questionable lists ITT
    Posted by LadyFingrs
    If it were my choice, I would definitely have YOU in my top 3 LF. Why? Because you're not as good as you think you are; you are an awful tournament player; there's loads of scope for improvement (though you'd never agree, you think you're perfect right now. What could Ed or TK teach you, you know it already) but you could definitely be moulded into a truly great player.
  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: If you were 1 of the mentors....:
    Freechips basically put what i was going to say regarding "high stakes players" You realise that 99% of the high stakes players started off with a very small bankroll just like you all ? i started with £25 3 years ago now - if your good enough you will progress through the stakes. I persoanlly don't like the fact people are already against players such as will brewin being selected - yes he might play 1/2 cash and win a fair bit but in comparison...everybody on this site plays low stakes poker apart from £2.5/5 cash which is considered medium - high stakes 25/50 ! I don't rate my chances at getting in this thing based on my last 2 months form but when are the players are selected. I will vote for who in my opinion is the BEST TOTAL PLAYER. After all its upto us the players to select the player who is just that. That player may well be Will brewin for example but you have to respect how much work he has put in to get that opportunity and who he has beat to get thier. Some players play some sick sick hours because its thier Jobs - I for one shall be playing mad hours just to try stake my claim in this even though im on one of those awful runs lately. If hand historys are searched etc im sure thats my glimmer of hope, Just dont be biased to who you play with or like personally. No one doubts the best player on this site may well play .02/.04 cash or 30p DYMs but they have to put some effort into to achieve being noticed also. Another small rant kinda but its my views.
    Posted by Nutter5932
    I see what you are saying, but are you playing the same style of poker now as you were back then with ur £25 roll?
    Don`t get me wrong, there is every possibility there is a budding pro in the making playing 2p/4p right now, but how are they going to shine for the mentors?  They are not going to be on 2nd, or 3rd level thinking even if they were capable of it.  They are going to be playing to make money which is abc.

    You cannot beat that level with fancy moves.

    you could make a move at 2/4p and look like a donk, make the same move at 2/4£ and look like a genius.

    The bigger players who started out small know what goes on down there and it would be much easier for them to drop down than those down there to go up
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited December 2009
    Why does everyone attack the high stakes players?? It's everyones hope/dream to be up there one day. Personally i deposited £5 earlier this year and played 30p dym games... i moved up every level and now play £3.30 and £5.50 dym... im grinding my way up and as the high stakes players have said they started small and made their way up... proof is in the pudding eh?
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