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Bad hands winning on too regular a basis

mareeves11mareeves11 Member Posts: 100
edited November 2013 in Brags, Beats and Variance
Been on the naughty step before so this is probably my last post

Is anybody else getting fed up with your AA being stuffed by somebody holding 5 9 off suit and losing because they end up with a straight after going all in. It`s not just a one off it happens all the time.  It`s been nice knowing you all but I have been warned by Sky about my derogatory remarks before and I feel this may be my last Skypoker breath and will be removed as was another home truth telling post
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  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited November 2013
    sigh

    its not rigged... think about it... why would sky want to rig a small stakes game?!
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited November 2013
    Selective memory, some of us only seem to remember the times we lose rather than all the times we win with those particular hands.  It's not rigged fella, although at times you can feel as though you're fighting against an invisible force.  Well, his name is 'Variance'.
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  • ZeextenrZeextenr Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    Been on the naughty step before so this is probably my last post Is anybody else getting fed up with your AA being stuffed by somebody holding 5 9 off suit and losing because they end up with a straight after going all in. It`s not just a one off it happens all the time.  It`s been nice knowing you all but I have been warned by Sky about my derogatory remarks before and I feel this may be my last Skypoker breath and will be removed as was another home truth telling post
    Posted by mareeves11
    Know how you feel fella and I have felt the same way on several occasions usually when I am not watching what other players are doing.  Was he calling lots of hands?  I bet it was very low limit games too.  Long term he will lose doing that, but you know that.  My advice fwiw, observe!!!!   you will take a lot more off a player like that long term than he will off you.  Just saying is all.
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  • a00rocka00rock Member Posts: 832
    edited November 2013
    I get fed up with my AA and KK and AKs getting outdrawn with weaker hands it is very frustrating at times.

    News just in tho it don't just happen on here I play a number of other poker sites and it happens on them too darn it. Who would have thought it!

    Run better ...Ray
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  • churchy18churchy18 Member Posts: 1,850
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    Selective memory, some of us only seem to remember the times we lose rather than all the times we win with those particular hands.  It's not rigged fella, although at times you can feel as though you're fighting against an invisible force.  Well, his name is 'Variance'.
    Posted by DoubleAAA
    agreed just the other day i was playing the mini pointsroll and had a guy just banging it in all the time and finally got bored and pushed all in with a8s ,he turns his over and has aa ..i flopped a flush busted him out..3/4 hands later i get aa and a player shoves so auto all in from me he turns over 66 the board came out all over the place and then on the river he hit the 6 and boom i was busted. it smarts but remember the times that we  win v the nuts and it makes it a little bit easier too take...gl at the tables
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  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited November 2013
    Where's Harry when you need him?
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  • churchy18churchy18 Member Posts: 1,850
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    Where's Harry when you need him?
    Posted by Jac35

    putting santa in the chokey and cancelling Christmas i think :@(
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited November 2013
    bad hands will win on a regular basis, don't be shocked by this - embrace it -

    all of us will get it in bad from time to time and you know what  - sometimes we get lucky


    deal with it



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  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    bad hands will win on a regular basis, don't be shocked by this - embrace it - all of us will get it in bad from time to time and you know what  - sometimes we get lucky deal with it
    Posted by rancid
    This happened to me once.....although I think it was a leap year,.....not sure if that was relevant :)
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  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited November 2013

    Some choice quotes from the "Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler.

    "I can't control the cards I can only control how I play and how I react!"

    “I am going to maintain a solid strategy whether I am winning or losing.”

    "YOU’RE A SHI   TTY PSYCHIC AND CAN’T PREDICT WHEN IT’S GOING TO TURN AROUND. ALL YOU CAN DO IS KEEP PLAYING WELL."

    "IF IT’S ALL SKILL IN THE LONG RUN, THEN YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON SKILL IN THE SHORT RUN."

    "YOU CONTROL HOW YOU RESPOND TO THE CARDS, NOT WHAT CARDS ARE DEALT."

    "STOP COMPLAINING. THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO LEARN."

    "MISTAKES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. THE BIGGER MISTAKE IS LETTING ONE TURN INTO MORE."


    "Rather than just thinking of money as something that’s won or lost each time you play, consider it to be an investment in your edge that yields a return over time."

    "THE MONEY ON THE TABLE IS AN INVESTMENT IN YOUR EDGE. IF YOU LOST MAKING PROFITABLE PLAYS, LOSING IS TEMPORARY AS LONG AS YOU KEEP PLAYING WELL AND IMPROVING."

    "I have control’–but it was the long run, not short run that I controlled, and when I realized that, a lot of my problems were solved."

    “EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE IT RIGHT NOW, I AM BEATING THE GAMES … BUT I DON’T HAVE MUCH OF AN EDGE WHEN TILTING.”

    "IT’S NOT POSSIBLE TO WIN EVERY HAND. YOUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON PLAYING EVERY HAND WELL."

    "The old adage, “Be careful what you wish for,” is true in this case. If you got your wish, and results in the short run were 100% connected to which player was better, what would happen? Since poker is as much a war of the perception of skill as it is of actual skill, action from weaker players would dry up, and poker would become chess."

    and my favourite......

    "Rather than feeling as if you’re a better player, prove it."


    Hope some or any those help with suck outs!


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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    Where's Harry when you need him?
    Posted by Jac35
    I'm here sir!
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  • somersomer Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    sigh its not rigged... think about it... why would sky want to rig a small stakes game?!
    Posted by chicknMelt

    “Sigh
    Its not rigged……think about it”

    Rigged is a little strong - not that the original poster mentioned the word “rigged”. He questions the frequency of “unusual” hands - its fair comment. 

    I lost recently to a chip leader who had called an all-in with 52 pre-flop. My QQ was destroyed by the flop of: 5-5-2 the turn of: 2 and the river of: 5. Now, had I been playing live I think I may have had a word with the dealer about his dubious shuffling skills - Moreover, there would have been the odd expletive used in the conversation. 

    I hold the view that online poker is very good value for money entertainment and Sky is as good a site as any other. For just a few pounds you can spend enjoyable hours competing against others and the “villain” known as the RNG. For the majority it will never be anything other than just entertainment - few will make any serious money and that is perfectly understandable.

    When playing online we are asked to believe that the hands dealt are completely random - well, you can believe that if you wish! I prefer to use my own judgement and it tells me that the RNG should be treated with caution. However, for those that still believe in Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny… carry on - everything is how it should be.

    Sky states that the RNG was audited in 2009 - perhaps a return visit from the auditors wouldn’t go amiss.


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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis : “Sigh Its not rigged……think about it” Rigged is a little strong - not that the original poster mentioned the word “rigged”. He questions the frequency of “unusual” hands - its fair comment.  I lost recently to a chip leader who had called an all-in with 52 pre-flop. My QQ was destroyed by the flop of: 5-5-2 the turn of: 2 and the river of: 5. Now, had I been playing live I think I may have had a word with the dealer about his dubious shuffling skills - Moreover, there would have been the odd expletive used in the conversation.  I hold the view that online poker is very good value for money entertainment and Sky is as good a site as any other. For just a few pounds you can spend enjoyable hours competing against others and the “villain” known as the RNG. For the majority it will never be anything other than just entertainment - few will make any serious money and that is perfectly understandable. When playing online we are asked to believe that the hands dealt are completely random - well, you can believe that if you wish! I prefer to use my own judgement and it tells me that the RNG should be treated with caution. However, for those that still believe in Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny… carry on - everything is how it should be. Sky states that the RNG was audited in 2009 - perhaps a return visit from the auditors wouldn’t go amiss.
    Posted by somer

    Care to elaborate?

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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited November 2013
    2d5d is thee nuts though, somer.

    Cheers, 
    TEDDY
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  • LudacrisLudacris Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2013
    FOLD THE AA, YOU ONLY HAVE 2 OUTS...AK HAS 6
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis : “Sigh Its not rigged……think about it” Rigged is a little strong - not that the original poster mentioned the word “rigged”. He questions the frequency of “unusual” hands - its fair comment.  I lost recently to a chip leader who had called an all-in with 52 pre-flop. My QQ was destroyed by the flop of: 5-5-2 the turn of: 2 and the river of: 5. Now, had I been playing live I think I may have had a word with the dealer about his dubious shuffling skills - Moreover, there would have been the odd expletive used in the conversation.  I hold the view that online poker is very good value for money entertainment and Sky is as good a site as any other. For just a few pounds you can spend enjoyable hours competing against others and the “villain” known as the RNG. For the majority it will never be anything other than just entertainment - few will make any serious money and that is perfectly understandable. When playing online we are asked to believe that the hands dealt are completely random - well, you can believe that if you wish! I prefer to use my own judgement and it tells me that the RNG should be treated with caution. However, for those that still believe in Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny… carry on - everything is how it should be. Sky states that the RNG was audited in 2009 - perhaps a return visit from the auditors wouldn’t go amiss.
    Posted by somer
    Excellent post,
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    Not really.
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  • bromley04bromley04 Member Posts: 416
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    Not really.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    I agree Harry...calling the RNG a villain is the kind of berating that has no place in poker - Kick It Out I say!
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  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited November 2013

    if there's "unusual hands" or whatever you think is up with the software then how do you explain the many players who make consistent profits?

    surely if the software is inconsistent then it must make it impossible to make these consistent profits??

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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis:
    In Response to Re: Bad hands winning on too regular a basis : I agree Harry...calling the RNG a villain is the kind of berating that has no place in poker - Kick It Out I say!
    Posted by bromley04
    I think he elaborated very well.  Whilst we all know it is possible to hit a full house with 5-2, the hand described does seem miraculous, and is the type of hand that makes people feel uneasy. It is as though "the raiser has 5-2, so we can only deal 5's and 2's.

    Firstly , it was a poor shove with 5-2.
    Secondly , it was a miraculous flop to make a full house,
    But Thirdly, was it not overkill to deal another deuce on the turn, and then a 5 on the river to make quads?

    The raiser had 5-2 and was looking for 6 cards in a 40 card deck.  5 of them were dealt!

    You must agree that the odds of this happening are very low indeed.

    My own worst beat came when villain and I both had 30k chips in a tournament.

    I raised to 10k with QQ.

    Flop came 94Q. I shove 20k.

    How can he call with 3-5??

    Turn 2 - River Ace.

    It was the circumstances of his call that were very doubtfull.
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