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driving me mad

rainbow_x_rainbow_x_ Member Posts: 319
edited December 2009 in Poker Chat

people calling all in with NOTHING and it drops in
i had AK got called all in pretty early in the game
he turn over 8, 5....... I THOUGHT ALL IN WITH 8 5 WHY,
ohhh but guess wat 5,5,8 drops in urrrrrrrrrrrhh
this i just one occasion IT KEEPS HAPPENING pocket ks pocket aces same thing
well lesson learned never never go all in pre flop
uurrrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

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  • silver8acksilver8ack Member Posts: 1,190
    edited December 2009
    do not feel down rainbow
    but i know what you AK killed me three times the other day to stupid calls with people having nothing but winning by calling allin first maybe they just now somthing we do not :(
    all the best though and have a great xmas
  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited December 2009
    In Response to driving me mad:
    people calling all in with NOTHING and it drops in i had AK got called all in pretty early in the game he turn over 8, 5....... I THOUGHT ALL IN WITH 8 5 WHY, ohhh but guess wat 5,5,8 drops in urrrrrrrrrrrhh this i just one occasion IT KEEPS HAPPENING pocket ks pocket aces same thing well lesson learned never never go all in pre flop uurrrrrhhhhhhhhhhh
    Posted by rainbow_x_
    Hi

    You want them to be calling all day, and all night, they will not win in the long run :)
  • silver8acksilver8ack Member Posts: 1,190
    edited December 2009
    very true ace but in the mean time we keep getting busted out  and thats not fun :(
    but as rainbow said lesson learned just time to tighten up and hold tight till the fools take flight lol
  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: driving me mad:
    very true ace but in the mean time we keep getting busted out  and thats not fun :( but as rainbow said lesson learned just time to tighten up and hold tight till the fools take flight lol
    Posted by silver8ack
    Hi

    Beleive me, been there done that it does come good
  • rainbow_x_rainbow_x_ Member Posts: 319
    edited December 2009
    very true nothing better than somone calling all in all the time
    u sit n wait for that premium hand and take there loose chips...but
    @ the moment its not working for me my premiums r always BUSTED
    by rubbish :(
  • charlyb8charlyb8 Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2009
    I know exactly how you feel.ive been knocked out by the same person 4 times in a row.gets very annoying.In one thing your right,they dont last very long but in the meantime its spoiled your game because they have already got rid of you.What a bu mmer.
  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2009
    Hi rainbow u are very unlucky but take this on board,there is no logical reason to go all-in so early on.A 4xbb is enough to let them know you have a big hand.If the flop  comes bad then you can get away from it.All-ins should be kept to post flop if you have the goods.gl dav
  • TalonTalon Member Posts: 1,621
    edited December 2009
      The other thing to remember her is that as good as AK is it is only a 2 to 1 favourite against 2 random undercards. So you would lose 1 in 3 to any holding.
  • KnackersYaKnackersYa Member Posts: 468
    edited December 2009
    Try this one for size.....

    Hand History #215419687 (14:27 18/12/2009)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Villain1
    Small blind   25.00 25.00 2135.00
    Villain 2
    Big blind   50.00 75.00 3395.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    KnackersYa Raise   100.00 175.00 3025.00
    -----
    Fold        
    -----
    Fold        
    Villain1
    Call   75.00 250.00 2060.00
    Villain2
    Call   50.00 300.00 3345.00
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 5
    • 4
         
    Villain1
    Bet   50.00 350.00 2010.00
    Villain2
    Call   50.00 400.00 3295.00
    KnackersYa Raise   500.00 900.00 2525.00
    Villain1
    Call   450.00 1350.00 1560.00
    Villain2
    All-in   3295.00 4645.00 0.00
    KnackersYa All-in   2525.00 7170.00 0.00
    Villain1
    All-in   1560.00 8730.00 0.00
    Villain2
    Unmatched bet   320.00 8410.00 320.00
    Villain1
    Show
    • K
    • K
         
    Villain2
    Show
    • J
    • 2
         
    KnackersYa Show
    • A
    • A
         
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    Villain2
    Win Straight to the 5 8410.00   8730.00

    Fair play to Villain2, I kinda like the shove on the flop. Not a bad beat moan as such, just how the runner-runner came down.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: driving me mad:
    Try this one for size..... Hand History #215419687 (14:27 18/12/2009) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Villain1 Small blind   25.00 25.00 2135.00 Villain 2 Big blind   50.00 75.00 3395.00   Your hole cards A A       KnackersYa Raise   100.00 175.00 3025.00 ----- Fold         ----- Fold         Villain1 Call   75.00 250.00 2060.00 Villain2 Call   50.00 300.00 3345.00 Flop     8 5 4       Villain1 Bet   50.00 350.00 2010.00 Villain2 Call   50.00 400.00 3295.00 KnackersYa Raise   500.00 900.00 2525.00 Villain1 Call   450.00 1350.00 1560.00 Villain2 All-in   3295.00 4645.00 0.00 KnackersYa All-in   2525.00 7170.00 0.00 Villain1 All-in   1560.00 8730.00 0.00 Villain2 Unmatched bet   320.00 8410.00 320.00 Villain1 Show K K       Villain2 Show J 2       KnackersYa Show A A       Turn     3       River     A       Villain2 Win Straight to the 5 8410.00   8730.00
    Posted by KnackersYa

    You and kk man can have no complaints here m8

    J2 man had value, you only min raised it preflop and kk only flat called.

    j2 man then hit a big draw and played it strongly!

    It is funny how so often if we let these junky hands get in the pot very cheap they seem to hit. If you had raised x3, i doubt j2 man would have played and you would have had KK mans money.

    I cannot believe that KK didnt raise preflop tho! madness!
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2009
    Well, tbh with AK, you dont really want a call because most the time they have a pair and you have to hit, then there's the dreaded AA /KK. But if your losing to 85o it means nothing as your only 64% favorite which isnt great by any means. Also if it happens with premium pocket pairs AA/KK/QQ, you should in theory be over the moon, as for the one time you lose you'll win loads more long term. ;)
  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ Member Posts: 1,651
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: driving me mad:
    very true nothing better than somone calling all in all the time u sit n wait for that premium hand and take there loose chips...but @ the moment its not working for me my premiums r always BUSTED by rubbish :(
    Posted by rainbow_x_
    you almost hit the nail on the head in your 1st post,(never never go all in again) while it is inevitable that you need to go all in on occasions i now try to aviod ot unless i have the nuts or are sure i am winning(which you were) then i feel i have more control over the possibility of being and staying ahead,but you are always going to get donk calls......
  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: driving me mad:
    In Response to Re: driving me mad : you almost hit the nail on the head in your 1st post,(never never go all in again) while it is inevitable that you need to go all in on occasions i now try to aviod ot unless i have the nuts or are sure i am winning(which you were) then i feel i have more control over the possibility of being and staying ahead,but you are always going to get donk calls......
    Posted by DAVEYZZ
    +1 exactly the point i made davey
  • KnackersYaKnackersYa Member Posts: 468
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: driving me mad:
    In Response to Re: driving me mad : You and kk man can have no complaints here m8 J2 man had value, you only min raised it preflop and kk only flat called. j2 man then hit a big draw and played it strongly! It is funny how so often if we let these junky hands get in the pot very cheap they seem to hit. If you had raised x3, i doubt j2 man would have played and you would have had KK mans money. I cannot believe that KK didnt raise preflop tho! madness!
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Greg, I couldn't agree more. I played it bad tbh, it was just an observation of how fancy play syndrome can mess you up good and proper (to be fair to me, I nearly folded on the flop)! Also, KK man had been re-popping constantly and I was hoping for a re-pop.
  • rainbow_x_rainbow_x_ Member Posts: 319
    edited December 2009
    yep thankyou all ur right bad beats always happen
    patiants is a vertue
    i need 2 think positive and look @ my play
    and b more patiant
    its just fustrating wen bad cards win win win
    good cards loose loose loooooooose :):)
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