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20NL - Line Check

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  • RyanC7RyanC7 Member Posts: 355
    edited November 2013
    3b pre > call

    Surprised your questionning the call otr! Call all day long

    Prefer c/c on river Ivan. If we bet were effectively turning our hand into a bluff vs multi tabling reg. If it was a loose rec who's just gonna station with 66 then maybe. Still prefer c/c tho given every draw bricked. 
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2013
    call pre vs btn open is gonna be better then 3betting.. why do people want to fold out so much of the range you dominate?

    flop is meh... turn/river standard call downs
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited November 2013
    Yeah I'm not saying I think betting is better than c/c - just that I think there should still be value in betting. And if there isn't value in betting then maybe we can be bluffing somewhat more often in this spot.
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited November 2013
    As Pryce has said I much prefer a line of call, call, call if we haven't 3b pre.  Probably is a sometimes defend/sometimes 3b spot pre, leaning slightly more to the defend.  Never folding pre.

    As played up to the river after taking this line I am defo betting the river for value.  And if I have checked I am calling to answer your question.
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited November 2013
    When we check-raise the flop, we only really rep draws.

    By the river, all the draws have missed. We can bet for value against the villain's bluff catcher's or check and hope the villain has a draw himself - which is probably not Ace-high and we hope isn't Queen-high - and that he doesn't see right through us: If we have a draw, we're check-giving-up, so there's little point in the villain betting a weaker hand than our Ten. If we have a value hand we're checking to induce so, again, little point in the villain betting a weaker value hand than our Ten.


    Betting the river sounds like the right option to me, as the hand was played. I still don't like the check-raise though. As I say, we're only repping semi-bluffs at best. Most of the time we're full of the brown stuff because this board makes it tough for our value raises to be called when we're holding sets, etc.


    Of course, there could be some levelling going on that makes us think the villain will perceive this check-raise as strength because he knows that we know that he knows it smells funky...
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