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Shove or fold??

waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,083
edited December 2013 in The Poker Clinic
This spot is from tonights roller.

Opening raiser had been very active, min raising a lot. I know I should prob 3 bet here but his stack was massive and I'm a weak nit.

The shortstack then shoves and I'm snap calling if the bigstack folds. After he just flats too I really don't know what to do!!! 

Is calling bad? So it's shove or fold?? What should I be doing here? Help!
Richie_L Small blind  100.00 100.00 21950.00
batfink336 Big blind  200.00 300.00 10865.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
lolufold7 Fold     
xRaise  400.00 700.00 45667.50
waller02 Call  400.00 1100.00 9671.25
xx All-in  3737.50 4837.50 0.00
Richie_L Fold     
batfink336 Fold     
xCall  3337.50 8175.00 42330.00
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited December 2013
    Think I'm just letting it go tbh.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2013
    Yeah think we have to let it go. If we flat, we have to fold to a shove behind and I'd hate to shove to isolate when our stack is so big and our hand isn't that strong.
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2013
    What range are you putting the big stack on?  Was he calling 3bets quite loose?  I think you have to let this go tbh.  It would have been easier if you would have 3bet pf, as we can define the big stacks range easier once the btn shoves.
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,083
    edited December 2013
    Yeah I agree about 3 betting pre giving me a better idea of the big stacks range.

    I did fold. Shorty had AJ and bigstack had A10. My hand would have held but I guess in the long run the fold is best as I would be running into better hands a lot of the time. It was just slightly frustrating at the time!
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: Shove or fold??:
    Yeah I agree about 3 betting pre giving me a better idea of the big stacks range. I did fold. Shorty had AJ and bigstack had A10. My hand would have held but I guess in the long run the fold is best as I would be running into better hands a lot of the time. It was just slightly frustrating at the time!
    Posted by waller02
    I think you did the correct thing by folding, sucks seeing that you would have won but think long term and all that :)

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