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Is this always a fold?

LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,494
edited December 2013 in The Poker Clinic
I have 3 bb if I fold in a sat for the primo (its a freeroll), I have another 4 hands
LARSON7 Small blind  8000.00 8000.00 51734.00
bill264 Big blind  16000.00 24000.00 287130.03
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
     
JARON Fold     
skimmercfc All-in  232617.33 256617.33 0.00
LARSON7 All-in  51734.00 308351.33 0.00
bill264 Call  216617.33 524968.66 70512.70
LARSON7 Show
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bill264 Show
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skimmercfc Show
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Flop
   
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Turn
   
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River
   
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skimmercfc Win Flush to the Ace 524968.66
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  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2013
    This is tough because ideally we would like to be first in the pot. We have the btn next hand, so we can shove that.  This guy shoving his big stack into another big stack? has to be something huge right?   I mean something bigger than AQ or QQ in my eyes as no need for him to shove.  I think we have to fold, but I won't lie to you, I would be making the call, it's only after looking at the hand for a few mins that I think we fold.  What a sick situation.

    The bb should NEVER be calling though!
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited December 2013
    I guess this is the bubble - what are the other stack sizes like? Our hand is pretty irrelevant without this information!
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,494
    edited December 2013
    skimmercfc524968.661£30,000 Primo
    JARON297982.182£30,000 Primo
    fozza185230.333£30,000 Primo
    johnscon12140023.344£30,000 Primo
    rueben101282.795£30,000 Primo
    bill26470512.706£30,000 Primo
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2013
    I said it was a fold initially on Skype but knowing that so few runners are left AND we're last in chips, I'm really not sure. I do prefer being the one to shove late in sats and would rather shove say 79s than call with AJs just cos people will fold SO often.

    I'd say we probably have to go with it because looking at stacks (and adjusting them for the fact bill only has 70k cos he just lost the AK v 88 hand above) every single player has 100k+ and you have 50k, so it's very unlikely anyone is gonna play a single hand until you either bust or double. But then saying that Bill called off with AK which I think is bad on a sat bubble even tho he isn't the shorty cos his stack is already VERY comfortable and he doesn't need to play a hand.
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