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2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...

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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013
    The reason I brought this idea forward is because I like a challenge, and I enjoy (friendly) competition. Let's not get bogged down by talk of 'voting to give you the best chance of success'. I would be quite happy with any (reasonable) points distribution. I was just looking for a little added excitement for playing the Main and Mini events each evening, and I was hoping a lot of you would feel the same way.

    Prizes to me are irrelevant really, and I didn't start the thread for Sky to offer them. Don't get me wrong, it's great that the prizes are now out there, but this was supposed to be a simplistic way of determining your relative 'rank' as a player. Yes, you cannot quantify skill based on one year of placings in two tournaments, and you're absolutely right, any crude tournament leaderboard that I produce will not mean all that much come this time next year...

    ...but it started off as fun, so let's try and keep it that way folks :)
  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited December 2013
    Totally agree with the posts above. We'll offer prizes to the value of my first offer in the other thread divided up however you like :)
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2013
    Slips got a a decent head on his shoulders so I reckon we just let him choose whatever he thinks is best. As above, it's only a bit of fun, and if these are gonna need updating daily then it needs to be in a format that is easily do-able for Slip.

    I reckon just pick one and run with it Slip :)
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    Slips got a a decent head on his shoulders...Posted by Lambert180
    Not sure where you got that crazy idea from, mate! :)
  • tomo_efctomo_efc Member Posts: 716
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution... : Not sure where you got that crazy idea from, mate! :)
    Posted by Slipwater
    And no slip-ups....
  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited December 2013
    Well clearly people want 20 places paid, that's why JD and Ski's points have the most votes, so if you want the jumps to get bigger, how about this... Can't see anything wrng with it personally...

    30 - 24 - 19 - 16 - 13 - 10 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2 (11-20 receive 1 point)

    It starts off with 1 point jumps, then to 2. Once you reach the final table it goes up in 3's until you get to HU and the win...
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited December 2013
    Could we not just do the leaderboard on cash won ?
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    Well clearly people want 20 places paid, that's why JD and Ski's points have the most votes, so if you want the jumps to get bigger, how about this... Can't see anything wrng with it personally... 30 - 24 - 19 - 16 - 13 - 10 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2 (11-20 receive 1 point) It starts off with 1 point jumps, then to 2. Once you reach the final table it goes up in 3's until you get to HU and the win...
    Posted by FlashFlush
    +1


  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2013
    1267 makes a very good point! It would mean the scoring system matches the actual payout system of an MTT exactly so no arguements about it being too top heavy or not top heavy enough, and monetary value doesn't make a difference if there is a seperate table for MEs and Minis. Also means there's automatic weighting for certain MTTs. i.e. it's more prestigious (imo) taking down the Primo than taking down Turbo Tuesday ME and that would be reflected in the payout.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013
    I quite like what Flash has suggested - seems to cover most bases :)
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    1267 makes a very good point! It would mean the scoring system matches the actual payout system of an MTT exactly so no arguements about it being too top heavy or not top heavy enough, and monetary value doesn't make a difference if there is a seperate table for MEs and Minis. Also means there's automatic weighting for certain MTTs. i.e. it's more prestigious (imo) taking down the Primo than taking down Turbo Tuesday ME and that would be reflected in the payout.
    Posted by Lambert180
    +1

    Also with alot of the mains being Bounty hunters, the points system doesn't reflect head prizes.
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited December 2013
    To be clear, i don't mean proffit.  I mean cashes. 

     This will also make people play more mains if they are close to personal goals on the leaderboard making more rake for SKY .  Everyones a winner  (by everyone, i mean Sky, MATTBATES and TOMMYD ).
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    To be clear, i don't mean proffit.  I mean cashes.   This will also make people play more mains if they are close to personal goals on the leaderboard making more rake for SKY .  Everyones a winner  (by everyone, i mean Sky, MATTBATES and TOMMYD ).
    Posted by 1267
    I didn't really want this to be about money. Obviously, that is how it ultimately translates, but a points system simply looks cleaner. Someone who wins one Primo event in 2014 is not necessarily better than someone who wins one Turbo event, just because he is paid more for it. The Primo gets fewer runners for a start. One Main Event is - for the purposes of the leaderboard - equal to every other... unless you want to make the Sunday Main Event worth double the points?
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution... : I didn't really want this to be about money . Obviously, that is how it ultimately translates, but a points system simply looks cleaner. Someone who wins one Primo event in 2014 is not necessarily better than someone who wins one Turbo event, just because he is paid more for it. The Primo gets fewer runners for a start. One Main Event is - for the purposes of the leaderboard - equal to every other... unless you want to make the Sunday Main Event worth double the points?
    Posted by Slipwater
    I have to disagree with that as a general rule !

    Plus every1 has the option to play both tournes .
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013

    Everyone doesn't have the option to play both tournaments. The Primo costs a lot more and - despite the fact there are satellites - it is not accessible to players not rolled for it.

    As I said, the Primo gets fewer participants, so there is an argument that way as well.

    But, you know, if the majority want to make this about the money, I'm happy to go with it. But to be clear: I'd rather it was a points system.

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,637
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: 2014 Leaderboard: Points Distribution...:
    Could we not just do the leaderboard on cash won ?
    Posted by 1267
    That seems like a fairly efficient system!
  • a00rocka00rock Member Posts: 832
    edited December 2013
    I agree with you Brian also I would have thought it would be easier to collate and update a points based table rather than having to record every cash.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,708
    edited December 2013
    It just does not feel as much fun if we are basing this on the financials.

    And besides, you could get more money from winning one Roller, than another guy who wins eight or nine Turbo Main Events. Is the Roller winner better? Perhaps. But my feeling is that the leaderboard should reward consistency, not one bink.
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited December 2013
    FlashFlush suggestions seems a good compromise imo. Counting cashes would be a nightmare, in every Bounty Hunter you'd have to go through the whole field.

    This is your baby Slipwater, everybody has had ample opportunity to give feedback now. I suggest you just choose what you think is best and run with it.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,533
    edited December 2013
    What do points make.........................?

    Prizes
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