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Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??

K8LOUK8LOU Member Posts: 630
edited January 2014 in Poker Chat
As said above is this sat back for good? not worked out the numbers so I wouldnt know if there was any overlay.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,843
    edited January 2014

    Hi K8,

    I've no idea.

    I have not seen the numbers, but I read somewhere that it had £400 overlay last night. If that is true, I fear the worst.

    There appears - typically - to be extrenely mixed opinions on the structure, ranging from "awful, a shambles" to "perfect, just right". Such is trying to keep poker players happy! Those opinions are
    HERE

    I don't know all of those who expressed such diverse opinions, but I know most of them, & the majority are most accomplished players, with good track records, so it's interesting they hold such opposing views!

    Fingers crossed, & if I hear anything, I'll deffo make it known on the Community.

    I pushed it on here yesterday, & on Twitter, but I'm not sure that helped much.
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    Hi K8, I've no idea. I have not seen the numbers, but I read somewhere that it had £400 overlay last night. If that is true, I fear the worst. There appears - typically - to be extrenely mixed opinions on the structure, ranging from "awful, a shambles" to "perfect, just right". Such is trying to keep poker players happy! Those opinions are HERE I don't know all of those who expressed such diverse opinions, but I know most of them, & the majority are most accomplished players, with good track records, so it's interesting they hold such opposing views! Fingers crossed, & if I hear anything, I'll deffo make it known on the Community. I pushed it on here yesterday, & on Twitter, but I'm not sure that helped much.
    Posted by Tikay10
    The structure debate was about the UKPC final (£240) - K8lou's question was about the super sat £27 rebuy on thursdays.

    I'd love to see the tourney stay. doubt it will with the overlay from last night though...and it doesnt sound so appealing if the whole final table werent to get seats to the UKPC final.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,664
    edited January 2014
    I hope it does stay on - I have no idea why there was that much overlay as it was certainly a popular satellite a couple of months ago.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,843
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good?? : The structure debate was about the UKPC final (£240) - K8lou's question was about the super sat £27 rebuy on thursdays. I'd love to see the tourney stay. doubt it will with the overlay from last night though...and it doesnt sound so appealing if the whole final table werent to get seats to the UKPC final.
    Posted by chicknMelt
    Ahh, my apologies, speed-reading is a bad thing.

    Even so, I found those range of opinions absolutely fascinating. Most people presented their opinions as fact, too. Quite extraordinary. Just shows how subjective these things are. 

    There also seemed to be some confusion between the size of the starting stack, & quality of structure, the implication, if I read it correctly, that more chips necessarily = better structure, but that's not true. IMO, of course. 

    Anyway, it seems to be producing an eclectic range of qualifiers, from Big Boys to Newbies, which is perfect. Even The Hippo qualified, so it must be easy.  
     
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited January 2014

    Its not surprising that there was overlay on the £27R super sat as there was overlay when it was run previously. Its a decent amount of money for most on the site and there was little warning it would be back in the schedule. I do feel with a bit of warning/some extra communication that there is more chance that it can continue with no overlay. Also would an option not be to get rid of one of the guaranteed £240 sat seats if there are concerns over overlay?

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2014
    Yeah would like to play and am still tempted but you're looking at £75 minimum to play it optimally (imo). Sure you could just add on and luckbox it, but am already probably at a skill disadvantage without having a chip one too. 

    Perhaps run £5 sats into it, would prob reduce overlay, I'd play them
  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited January 2014
    Why not run All in sats to the comp?  This would reduce the overlay.
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    Yeah would like to play and am still tempted but you're looking at £75 minimum to play it optimally (imo). Sure you could just add on and luckbox it, but am already probably at a skill disadvantage without having a chip one too.  Perhaps run £5 sats into it, would prob reduce overlay, I'd play them
    Posted by Lambert180
    tbh don't see the point of sats into rebuys. It's like winning 1/3 of an entry.

    Not a surprise there was overlay first night back.  Next week will be a better judge of how popular it might be.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,664
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    Yeah would like to play and am still tempted but you're looking at £75 minimum to play it optimally (imo). Sure you could just add on and luckbox it, but am already probably at a skill disadvantage without having a chip one too.  Perhaps run £5 sats into it, would prob reduce overlay, I'd play them
    Posted by Lambert180
    Sigh.

    I don't want to blow smoke up your whatsit, but I don't think that's the case at all.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good?? : tbh don't see the point of sats into rebuys. It's like winning 1/3 of an entry. Not a surprise there was overlay first night back.  Next week will be a better judge of how popular it might be.
    Posted by GELDY
    Yeah that's an issue with rebuys, personally I'd try multiple sats to pay for the BI, rebuy 1st hand and add on
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited January 2014
    2 things...

    People don't normally insta rebut in this sat for some reason. Think it's something to do with the flat payout for top 6. The 2k starting stack + the add on is enough IMO. So you could get away with £54. Gives U a good price on getting into the top 6 with a buns for 1st if u make it.

    They have got to be the softest tourneys with such a big buy in on sky. A lot of value to be had! 
  • DUNMIDOSHDUNMIDOSH Member Posts: 1,473
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    Hi K8, I've no idea. I have not seen the numbers, but I read somewhere that it had £400 overlay last night. If that is true, I fear the worst. There appears - typically - to be extrenely mixed opinions on the structure, ranging from "awful, a shambles" to "perfect, just right". Such is trying to keep poker players happy! Those opinions are HERE I don't know all of those who expressed such diverse opinions, but I know most of them, & the majority are most accomplished players, with good track records, so it's interesting they hold such opposing views! Fingers crossed, & if I hear anything, I'll deffo make it known on the Community. I pushed it on here yesterday, & on Twitter, but I'm not sure that helped much.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I only found out about it on the forum, much too late!
    Why not have a tourney every fortnight, but make sure it is advertised on all the shows in advance?
    If you know its going to happen you can plan around it. 24 hours or 48 hours notice doesn't give enough time to get out of family responsibilities.
    I like Lamberts Idea of maybe a nightly £5 all in. To get entry to the supersat with a rebuy thrown in.


  • K8LOUK8LOU Member Posts: 630
    edited January 2014
    I dont like the sound of satting into rebuy sats, its 1 buy in at the end of the day and if you think your loosing edge by not insta rebuying and adding in why would you to sat in for 1 buy in ? I played this last night and found it a really good sat, unlike 99.9% of the sats on sky it seemed well structured, I think if this was advertised more it would meet the guarantee with np problem..
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    2 things... People don't normally insta rebut in this sat for some reason. Think it's something to do with the flat payout for top 6. The 2k starting stack + the add on is enough IMO. So you could get away with £54. Gives U a good price on getting into the top 6 with a buns for 1st if u make it. They have got to be the softest tourneys with such a big buy in on sky. A lot of value to be had! 
    Posted by chicknMelt

    cheers for the info melt. Both facts make me more inclined to play. Is it just once per week on Thursday (overlay permitting)?

  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Is the UKPC 27£ rebuy sat back for good??:
    2 things... People don't normally insta rebut in this sat for some reason. Think it's something to do with the flat payout for top 6. The 2k starting stack + the add on is enough IMO. So you could get away with £54. Gives U a good price on getting into the top 6 with a buns for 1st if u make it. They have got to be the softest tourneys with such a big buy in on sky. A lot of value to be had! 
    Posted by chicknMelt
    Love buns, I'm in
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited January 2014
    Why not have it on a friday night. Starting a rebuy MTT at 9.45pm on a thursday night is difficult for people who have to work the next day.
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited January 2014
    lambo - yep, once a week on a thurs

    Sky - looks like you can swap the £1100 for some buns for 1st place...

    jonjo - it only gets about 30-40 runners. it doesnt finish any later than the main I dont think.
  • Dargumin1Dargumin1 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2014
    Hi. I'm looking throught the schedule for the £27 rebuy for Sky Poker UKPC but I can't find it.  Has it changed days?  If its had overlays in the past thats just because the tournament seemed ageas away, but as it comes closer I'm sure demand will increase.  Perhaps a different day instead of thursdays will be be better anyway?
  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited January 2014
    yeah, looks like its gone for now :(   ...shame. I would have played it. sounds like there were a few more interested after this thread from last week too.

    Dont see why one of the UKPC final £240 seats wasn't just removed from the guarantee to limit the overlay.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2014
    Sigh :( I was up for it this week
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