Nah i missed it, got it sky plussed though!! lol It seems that the tourney you'd most like is the £500 deepstack, have you given it a shot? I agree you get a lot more poker played with 15 min blinds but you have to remember they are only doing a 3 hour show so that speed of blinds wouldn't really be possible. I'm trying to build my bankroll the Chris Ferguson way so if i get to 400 quid i'll try the sleepstack lol Posted by kirstii
I have had a look at the deepstack but there never seems to be anyone playing it so in my eyes makes it seem a bit pointless playing as hardly any people will get paid out when it could go on much longer. I can totally understand why they could not show it on the TV though. Think I am just gonna have to stick to pokerstars and play the odd tournament on here. Made about 200 odd quid playing on pokerstars recently in pretty low buy in's.
By the way what would you advice be playing tournaments like the Bounty Hunter and The Open etc as everytime I play them just bust out early lol?
ok fair enough you dont want to pay 22 quid, how about the 5.50 one at 8.15?
and yes i used to play at pokerstars, but you play for around 2.5 hours just to make the lower cash, to reach the final table used to take 5-6 hours. Add on an extra hour at that final table its ridiculous and draining.
If the £20 DS is out of your price range, there is another DS at 20:15 it only costs £5:50 to enter and is £300 guaranteed, it gets 50+ people most nights and has a nice atmosphere as it has a lot of the same faces most nights...
Well i just got advice today, stuck to it and it worked, play it like a double your money game to begin with. Forget that it's a bounty hunter and play tight agressive poker, pick your spots against players that you've seen to be weak. Of course to get to the later stages of a 700 seater tourney your going to have to get lucky but i got into the money without ever being all in. And the best hand i saw up till then was KK once (doubled up).
I do play elsewhere, I played tonight just for a bit of something different for the first time in months and won't be playing again for a very long time!
I have yet to see anyone make even a reasonable defence against the points I made in my opening post.
The fact remains that in a pure poker sense, Sky Poker regulars get very little value for money and learn practically nothing about post flop play, especially when you consider the way the presenters try their best to be inoffensive to even the dumbest of moves at the tables!
I chuckle to myself when I see Tikay lauding the general level of ability of a Sky Poker player. Face facts, the average Sky Poker player would go broke in no time if they played on a proper site with even average players, the cash games are laughable and if the software was good for serious multitabling, the sharks would soon turn up and gobble up all the dead money on here!
Take the Russian Roulette games as an example that your glorious leader Tikay advertises. Do any of you seriously believe that there is any value in those? They exist purely to take advantage of those that don't know any better and I think it is disgusting that a so called respected poker personality such as Tikay endorses them!
I can see the attraction of the site from a community point of view. The channel makes a good job of making insecure, bad poker players feel welcome and comfortable but ask yourselves why no serious players are regulars on the site and why its growth has slowed down in terms of attracting and retaining new players.
I think you will find that the answer is because the site offers poor value for money to any self respecting poker player.
Sky Poker is a wolf in sheeps clothing and the majority of the regulars are frankly too stupid to notice.
That my dears, is a sad fact.
Never mind though, you'll get an email read out from time to time and get your poor play praised live on TV by an 80's TV has been, so its not all bad.
lol at the defensive drones. I do play elsewhere, I played tonight just for a bit of something different for the first time in months and won't be playing again for a very long time! I have yet to see anyone make even a reasonable defence against the points I made in my opening post. The fact remains that in a pure poker sense, Sky Poker regulars get very little value for money and learn practically nothing about post flop play, especially when you consider the way the presenters try their best to be inoffensive to even the dumbest of moves at the tables! I chuckle to myself when I see Tikay lauding the general level of ability of a Sky Poker player. Face facts, the average Sky Poker player would go broke in no time if they played on a proper site with even average players, the cash games are laughable and if the software was good for serious multitabling, the sharks would soon turn up and gobble up all the dead money on here! Take the Russian Roulette games as an example that your glorious leader Tikay advertises. Do any of you seriously believe that there is any value in those? They exist purely to take advantage of those that don't know any better and I think it is disgusting that a so called respected poker personality such as Tikay endorses them! I can see the attraction of the site from a community point of view. The channel makes a good job of making insecure, bad poker players feel welcome and comfortable but ask yourselves why no serious players are regulars on the site and why its growth has slowed down in terms of attracting and retaining new players. I think you will find that the answer is because the site offers poor value for money to any self respecting poker player. Sky Poker is a wolf in sheeps clothing and the majority of the regulars are frankly too stupid to notice. That my dears, is a sad fact. Never mind though, you'll get an email read out from time to time and get your poor play praised live on TV by an 80's TV has been, so its not all bad. Posted by The--Don
mozza i got a game on thursday at 7 o clock. 12 min blinds 5k stack 10 seater tables feel free 2 play in it fella sounds like its up ur streat, only 5.50 buy in.
mozza i got a game on thursday at 7 o clock. 12 min blinds 5k stack 10 seater tables feel free 2 play in it fella sounds like its up ur streat, only 5.50 buy in. Posted by mickjenn1
Cheers m8 if I am not busy thursday night I will defo be up for it.
I have just played the bounty hunter, which is the showpiece tournament of the evening and what a shambles of a game it is! 3k starting chips, Av stack of now just 12bb after 38mins (as I type) and almost half the field already eliminated. How is Sky Poker giving its customers value for money with games such as these? I know that none of your are true poker players but you're getting seriously short changed by the smiling faces that pretend to be your friends on here and on the screen all night. You only have to look around the internet for a few minutes to find far better value for money games and far better VIP programmes. I'm sure that this message won't really hit home with most of you, as you know no better having probably used the site since its conception but its flagship tournaments are insulting your collective intelligence and no amount of patronising telephone calls and condascending hand reviews are going to change that! I challenge the presenters to read this email on air and respond on air to my accusation that the flagship tournaments on this site offer little value for money for giving a true poker experience and allow for any kind of street by street post flop play after level three! Would the presenters play tournaments with a similar structure using their own money on a regular if they weren't contracted to Sky Poker? I appreciate that there are some time constraints to fit the tournament into the TV schedule but there are ways around that should they want to find them, such as an earlier start time by 1 hour, allowing for more time in the earlier levels and more bang for your buck. So, Richard and Ed, address this on air, I'd be interested in hearing your justifications for hosting such crapshoot tournaments night in, night out and not giving your players a proper poker experience for their hard earned cash. The--Don Barrow in Furness Posted by The--Don
Firstly, you only play the games you want to play, if you - like me - don't like the format of the Bounty Hunter tournaments or any other game, don't pay your money to enter it. The 9pm TV games have to be quicker simply because they can't have a 5 hour tournament starting at 9 and finishing at 2am, that's too late for people to be playing poker when they could have work in the morning. The simple solution is bigger blind increases or quicker blind increases, this means players will be knocked out faster so the tournament is over by midnight for television purposes. If you don't like this, don't play the TV games, you don't need to.
If you want a longer structure, look no further than the deep stack, you don't get as many entrants but if you are a good player, you will have a much bigger chance of cashing or winning. There is the £500 gtd at 7.15, if you don't want to pay the £22, satellite in for £4.80 by playing the 5pm satellite or even play a £5.50 sit n' go, if you win, use the winning to enter the £500 deep stack.
I'm noticing you still haven't left yet, and humour is a matter of opinion as is which site you like so go play on your favoured ones and leave us "stupid" people to it
I'm noticing you still haven't left yet, and humour is a matter of opinion as is which site you like so go play on your favoured ones and leave us "stupid" people to it Posted by kirstii
I intend to my love.
I'm just winding down from 10 tabling on Blue Square with real players that respect themselves.
Try it some day, we're always looking for a few new fish to keep the water well stocked
In Response to Re: Insult to poker : I intend to my love. I'm just winding down from 10 tabling on Blue Square with real players that respect themselves. Try it some day, we're always looking for a few new fish to keep the water well stocked Posted by The--Don
I have just played the bounty hunter, which is the showpiece tournament of the evening and what a shambles of a game it is! 3k starting chips, Av stack of now just 12bb after 38mins (as I type) and almost half the field already eliminated. How is Sky Poker giving its customers value for money with games such as these? I know that none of your are true poker players but you're getting seriously short changed by the smiling faces that pretend to be your friends on here and on the screen all night. You only have to look around the internet for a few minutes to find far better value for money games and far better VIP programmes. I'm sure that this message won't really hit home with most of you, as you know no better having probably used the site since its conception but its flagship tournaments are insulting your collective intelligence and no amount of patronising telephone calls and condascending hand reviews are going to change that! I challenge the presenters to read this email on air and respond on air to my accusation that the flagship tournaments on this site offer little value for money for giving a true poker experience and allow for any kind of street by street post flop play after level three! Would the presenters play tournaments with a similar structure using their own money on a regular if they weren't contracted to Sky Poker? I appreciate that there are some time constraints to fit the tournament into the TV schedule but there are ways around that should they want to find them, such as an earlier start time by 1 hour, allowing for more time in the earlier levels and more bang for your buck. So, Richard and Ed, address this on air, I'd be interested in hearing your justifications for hosting such crapshoot tournaments night in, night out and not giving your players a proper poker experience for their hard earned cash. The--Don Barrow in Furness Posted by The--Don
Hi The Don,
Just got back from the show. Wasn't actually shown this message during the programme by the studio crew. I would guess that this was because (a) they were massively busy tonight with technical issues and all sorts of phone calls to Vegas etc and (b) they wouldn't have seen it anyway, as it wasn't posted in the thread for tonight's show.
So I certainly wasn't avoiding the question- I would have gladly read it out on air and answered it. And of course I will now.
To be honest, I personally prefer the Open to the Bounty Hunter to play in, but I also understand the concept of market forces. The Bounty Hunter constantly sells out. People seem to enjoy playing it. I think if people felt it wasn't providing good value for money they would stop playing it. As I say, it sells out every week.
I think there's something for everyone on the site now-(Omaha is coming)- we've got a great community and it's an enjoyable site to play on. I also think everyone knows what they're getting when they sign up for the 9pm tournament. 3 hours of fun playing with your mates, a chance to be on TV, and the possibility of winning a few grand. All this, usually for £11. The price of a round of drinks.
Sorry you feel on a bit of a downer about The Bounty Hunter, but obviously you're not forced to play it. It's just one of a million tournaments in the world of poker you can play. I would imagine this won't have done much to change your mind, but I hope it at least proves that the presenters are not necessarily just smiling faces who don't give a monkeys. I'm very proud of Sky Poker and have a lot of time for the players, of which, I am one.
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By the way what would you advice be playing tournaments like the Bounty Hunter and The Open etc as everytime I play them just bust out early lol?
and yes i used to play at pokerstars, but you play for around 2.5 hours just to make the lower cash, to reach the final table used to take 5-6 hours. Add on an extra hour at that final table its ridiculous and draining.
If the £20 DS is out of your price range, there is another DS at 20:15 it only costs £5:50 to enter and is £300 guaranteed, it gets 50+ people most nights and has a nice atmosphere as it has a lot of the same faces most nights...
Good luck at the tables Mozza
Cheers for the advice kirstii, good luck to you too!
I do play elsewhere, I played tonight just for a bit of something different for the first time in months and won't be playing again for a very long time!
I have yet to see anyone make even a reasonable defence against the points I made in my opening post.
The fact remains that in a pure poker sense, Sky Poker regulars get very little value for money and learn practically nothing about post flop play, especially when you consider the way the presenters try their best to be inoffensive to even the dumbest of moves at the tables!
I chuckle to myself when I see Tikay lauding the general level of ability of a Sky Poker player. Face facts, the average Sky Poker player would go broke in no time if they played on a proper site with even average players, the cash games are laughable and if the software was good for serious multitabling, the sharks would soon turn up and gobble up all the dead money on here!
Take the Russian Roulette games as an example that your glorious leader Tikay advertises. Do any of you seriously believe that there is any value in those? They exist purely to take advantage of those that don't know any better and I think it is disgusting that a so called respected poker personality such as Tikay endorses them!
I can see the attraction of the site from a community point of view. The channel makes a good job of making insecure, bad poker players feel welcome and comfortable but ask yourselves why no serious players are regulars on the site and why its growth has slowed down in terms of attracting and retaining new players.
I think you will find that the answer is because the site offers poor value for money to any self respecting poker player.
Sky Poker is a wolf in sheeps clothing and the majority of the regulars are frankly too stupid to notice.
That my dears, is a sad fact.
Never mind though, you'll get an email read out from time to time and get your poor play praised live on TV by an 80's TV has been, so its not all bad.
Quality, well thought out reply.
Did you get help to write it, or was it all your own work?
I hope your poker ability is higher than your messageboard retort ability but I'm guessing it probably isn't.
The 9pm TV games have to be quicker simply because they can't have a 5 hour tournament starting at 9 and finishing at 2am, that's too late for people to be playing poker when they could have work in the morning. The simple solution is bigger blind increases or quicker blind increases, this means players will be knocked out faster so the tournament is over by midnight for television purposes. If you don't like this, don't play the TV games, you don't need to.
If you want a longer structure, look no further than the deep stack, you don't get as many entrants but if you are a good player, you will have a much bigger chance of cashing or winning. There is the £500 gtd at 7.15, if you don't want to pay the £22, satellite in for £4.80 by playing the 5pm satellite or even play a £5.50 sit n' go, if you win, use the winning to enter the £500 deep stack.
I'm just winding down from 10 tabling on Blue Square with real players that respect themselves.
Try it some day, we're always looking for a few new fish to keep the water well stocked
Just got back from the show. Wasn't actually shown this message during the programme by the studio crew. I would guess that this was because (a) they were massively busy tonight with technical issues and all sorts of phone calls to Vegas etc and (b) they wouldn't have seen it anyway, as it wasn't posted in the thread for tonight's show.
So I certainly wasn't avoiding the question- I would have gladly read it out on air and answered it. And of course I will now.
To be honest, I personally prefer the Open to the Bounty Hunter to play in, but I also understand the concept of market forces. The Bounty Hunter constantly sells out. People seem to enjoy playing it. I think if people felt it wasn't providing good value for money they would stop playing it. As I say, it sells out every week.
I think there's something for everyone on the site now-(Omaha is coming)- we've got a great community and it's an enjoyable site to play on. I also think everyone knows what they're getting when they sign up for the 9pm tournament. 3 hours of fun playing with your mates, a chance to be on TV, and the possibility of winning a few grand. All this, usually for £11. The price of a round of drinks.
Sorry you feel on a bit of a downer about The Bounty Hunter, but obviously you're not forced to play it. It's just one of a million tournaments in the world of poker you can play. I would imagine this won't have done much to change your mind, but I hope it at least proves that the presenters are not necessarily just smiling faces who don't give a monkeys. I'm very proud of Sky Poker and have a lot of time for the players, of which, I am one.
Cheers
Rich
At least hes thoroughly tested the site before forming an opinion.
Maybe he has played on the cash tables, I don't know, as that isnt covered by sharkscope.