Myself along with many others really appreciate all the effort you and the other admins put in to this and im sure it takes you hours on end, I have only been part of this for a short time but love it and cant wait to get home from work on a monday and play dtd games it so much different to any other nite and also my favorite one of the week.. I normally cant wait till the following monday to do it all over again as it is run so well, keep up the great work u do a fantasic job thanks again...
I firmly beleive this is a fanastic tournment were everyon is involved, i think that if any alteration where need to teams it would be very unfair on all the hard work the team captains have made to build there team up, and if you in a team with small numbers no harm in doing a massive recruitment driver putting posts out there as many players play the dtd that are not involved in any teams at the moment its just a case of finding them and chatting to them in chat window or be message.
I for one love the DTD mondays i always play when i am not working on monday nights, first class competition and run very well indeed.
well played to all involved again another great sucess
Sounds like one of our golf weekends, you'll always have the moaners. If it ain't broke don't fix it..... format seems to be spot on, it's up to us indies to group up n maybe cap how many to a team. I'm more than happy to join a team or start one. Look forward to next Monday, it's events like this that keeps me at sites. So keep up the good work Hitman n i'll see you on the tables. Thxs stanford07.
I firmly beleive this is a fanastic tournment were everyon is involved, i think that if any alteration where need to teams it would be very unfair onall the hard work the team captains have made to build there team up, and if you in a team with small numbers no harm in doing a massive recruitment driver putting posts out there as many players play the dtd that are not involved in any teams at the moment its just a case of finding them and chatting to them in chat window or be message. I for one love the DTD mondays i always play when i am not working on monday nights, first class competition and run very well indeed. well played to all involved again another great sucess Posted by haylez83
So basically, if you have attracted (lets not kid ourselves - "said yes to") more members, you deserve an advantage, and to **** with fairness?
Look, I am not a moaner, and this discussion is taking place elsewhere in a considered manner.
DTD is an individual event. I love it. I play it whenever I can. The team aspect adds a little fun, but when one team has 20 regulalr runners and another team has one runner, it obviously isn't functioning as a team event. When a single runner can win the team event, it becomes plain wrong.
I was just suggesting alternatives to the team side of the event to add fairness.
The problem is historical, and probably can't be resolved. Back in the day, a limit should have been put on number of people in each team. After "X" members, you form / join a new team. IIf nevessary that team could be Hit Squad 2. TKP2 etc. However, we can't uninvent the wheel, so we have what we have and have to try and make the best of it.
As an aside, I appreciate the hard work that goes into the event each week. I really do.
In Response to Re: FORUM DTD Monday 27th Jan. 2014 - Open To All Individuals With Prizes For Weekly & Monthly Top 3 Good Luck All : So basically, if you have attracted (lets not kid ourselves - "said yes to") more members, you deserve an advantage, and to **** with fairness? Look, I am not a moaner, and this discussion is taking place elsewhere in a considered manner. DTD is an individual event. I love it. I play it whenever I can. The team aspect adds a little fun, but when one team has 20 regulalr runners and another team has one runner, it obviously isn't functioning as a team event. When a single runner can win the team event, it becomes plain wrong. I was just suggesting alternatives to the team side of the event to add fairness. As an aside, I appreciate the hard work that goes into the event each week. I really do. Posted by Eyeman
Hi Eyman. Firstly......It's great to see you getting involved and making suggestions with a view to improve things, so thank you for your input.
I am a little tied up, but would be happy to discuss this in greater length and hopefully also get some possitive input from other players too.
If you can give me a little more time to respond a little later, then hopefully we can open up a positive discussion for all.
Yes, THS and TPT have had a more open recruitment policy, and have built there teams this way (incidentally this is no longer true of THS as we have realised the need to control numbers a little). To suggest that these teams success has come purely through strength of number is frankly a little insulting. I can only speak for HitSquad but I'm sure the same is true of TPT, but there has been an awful lot of work put in by a lot of people to grow the team and to improve our players. This is clearly evident on our results outside of DTD and indeed outside of Sky Poker.
Eyeman, I accept you have valid concerns over the structure of the team element of the DTD competition but to blame this on other peoples pro activity and hard work is just wrong in my opinion. There is literally nothing stopping any other team doing exactly what THS and TPT have done if they choose to.
In Response to Re: FORUM DTD Monday 27th Jan. 2014 - Open To All Individuals With Prizes For Weekly & Monthly Top 3 Good Luck All : So basically, if you have attracted (lets not kid ourselves - "said yes to") more members, you deserve an advantage, and to **** with fairness? Look, I am not a moaner, and this discussion is taking place elsewhere in a considered manner. DTD is an individual event. I love it. I play it whenever I can. The team aspect adds a little fun, but when one team has 20 regulalr runners and another team has one runner, it obviously isn't functioning as a team event. When a single runner can win the team event, it becomes plain wrong. I was just suggesting alternatives to the team side of the event to add fairness. The problem is historical, and probably can't be resolved. Back in the day, a limit should have been put on number of people in each team. After "X" members, you form / join a new team. If nevessary that team could be Hit Squad 2. TKP2 etc. However, we can't uninvent the wheel, so we have what we have and have to try and make the best of it. As an aside, I appreciate the hard work that goes into the event each week. I really do. Posted by Eyeman
Graham I see your point about team balance but maybe if other teams put in the same effort as TPT and Hitsquad do then maybe we would have a more balanced competition. Yes we do get some players just making one post saying can I join your team and we never hear of them again but the majority of our recruits come from playing other TPT members at the tables. I have had many players asking me what TPT is and what are the advantages of joining a team (not just TPT I mean any team). Final tables especially surprise some opponents when they see the TPT rail and wonder whats going on. That is the major way that we get recruits to the team. We have seen our numbers swell rapidly over the last 6 months but that is the nature of the beast as our numbers increase then so does the publicity for the team. Bear in mind also that although our member list now stands at 107 by my reckoning at least 40 of those are not currently active on Sky Poker. With regards to the DTD we do not recruit solely for DTD players although that is welcome and considering the size of the team our DTD turnout is quite modest. It is only recently that we have broken the 20 barrier and this week we were down to 15. Surely it wouldn't take too much effort for some of the other teams to catch up if they want to, and I can tell you that is not the case with all teams.
I didn't really want to wade in and post an opinion on this, because I usually keep my mouth shut
...but I'm on my lunch break, so figured I'd chuck in my thoughts.
Yes, it would make perfect sense for all teams to have the same number of participants. Eleven players on a football team; five players on a basketball team; fifteen players in a rugby squad. You don't have an imbalance there because, well... as you have alluded to - correctly, to some degree - it just isn't fair, is it?
And if this was a serious contest, I would agree. One hundred percent. Each team would be capped at (for instance) thirty members; rules would be set; penalties would be implemented for missing games; etc, etc.
But - for me at least - DTD, and more broadly, the function of each team, has never been about that. I'm a relatively new member of The HitSquad. Did I join because I thought they were the best team on Sky, with the biggest clout? No (sorry Dave!). Did I join because I thought they could help advance my game further than any other? No again. I joined because there was a core group of guys and girls that seemed to enjoy their games, and I thought it would be good to get to know a few of these people a little better. Forum friendship, if you like.
It would be relatively simple to implement a more rigid form of team-based competition, but the problem you will have is that - and somebody correct me if I'm speaking out of turn here - most forum regulars on Sky would rather a relaxed, no-strings, form of contest than a regimented league/ladder format, as you have alluded to. There are plenty of tournaments on every evening that takes care of serious competition.
This is just a bit of fun on the side, and we all like some of that
I didn't really want to wade in and post an opinion on this, because I usually keep my mouth shut ...but I'm on my lunch break, so figured I'd chuck in my thoughts. Yes, it would make perfect sense for all teams to have the same number of participants. Eleven players on a football team; five players on a basketball team; fifteen players in a rugby squad. You don't have an imbalance there because, well... as you have alluded to - correctly, to some degree - it just isn't fair, is it? And if this was a serious contest, I would agree. One hundred percent. Each team would be capped at (for instance) thirty members; rules would be set; penalties would be implemented for missing games; etc, etc. But - for me at least - DTD, and more broadly, the function of each team, has never been about that. I'm a relatively new member of The HitSquad. Did I join because I thought they were the best team on Sky, with the biggest clout? No (sorry Dave!). Did I join because I thought they could help advance my game further than any other? No again. I joined because there was a core group of guys and girls that seemed to enjoy their games, and I thought it would be good to get to know a few of these people a little better. Forum friendship, if you like. It would be relatively simple to implement a more rigid form of team-based competition, but the problem you will have is that - and somebody correct me if I'm speaking out of turn here - most forum regulars on Sky would rather a relaxed, no-strings, form of contest than a regimented league/ladder format, as you have alluded to. There are plenty of tournaments on every evening that takes care of serious competition. This is just a bit of fun on the side, and we all like some of that Posted by Slipwater
Excellent, well-reasoned post. I think I (and everyone) have come to the conclusion that, as you say, the team competition aspect is a bit of fun, and shouldn't be taken seriously.
In Response to Re: FORUM DTD Monday 27th Jan. 2014 - Winner was EVILPINGU (DIA) who had a score of 13 pts (made 1x FT) & Wins Entry to Mondays £33 BH GL in that : Excellent, well-reasoned post. I think I (and everyone) have come to the conclusion that, as you say, the team competition aspect is a bit of fun, and shouldn't be taken seriously. Posted by Eyeman
I didn't really want to wade in and post an opinion on this, because I usually keep my mouth shut ...but I'm on my lunch break, so figured I'd chuck in my thoughts. Yes, it would make perfect sense for all teams to have the same number of participants. Eleven players on a football team; five players on a basketball team; fifteen players in a rugby squad. You don't have an imbalance there because, well... as you have alluded to - correctly, to some degree - it just isn't fair, is it? And if this was a serious contest, I would agree. One hundred percent. Each team would be capped at (for instance) thirty members; rules would be set; penalties would be implemented for missing games; etc, etc. But - for me at least - DTD, and more broadly, the function of each team, has never been about that. I'm a relatively new member of The HitSquad. Did I join because I thought they were the best team on Sky, with the biggest clout? No (sorry Dave!). Did I join because I thought they could help advance my game further than any other? No again. I joined because there was a core group of guys and girls that seemed to enjoy their games, and I thought it would be good to get to know a few of these people a little better. Forum friendship, if you like. It would be relatively simple to implement a more rigid form of team-based competition, but the problem you will have is that - and somebody correct me if I'm speaking out of turn here - most forum regulars on Sky would rather a relaxed, no-strings, form of contest than a regimented league/ladder format, as you have alluded to. There are plenty of tournaments on every evening that takes care of serious competition. This is just a bit of fun on the side, and we all like some of that Posted by Slipwater
Excellent Post Brian Thank You!!!!!!!
Highlited is ONE OF MAIN REASON's I hope People Join!!
Rest is just sublime!! I may have to make you My HitSquad Team Diplomat, as I have a coarser Tongue, that is sometimes misread!!
Thanks also to Eyeman for taking time to consider others opinion, as I do try to myself!!
In Response to Re: FORUM DTD Monday 27th Jan. 2014 - Winner was EVILPINGU (DIA) who had a score of 13 pts (made 1x FT) & Wins Entry to Mondays £33 BH GL in that : Excellent, well-reasoned post. I think I (and everyone) have come to the conclusion that, as you say, the team competition aspect is a bit of fun, and shouldn't be taken seriously. Posted by Eyeman
In Response to Re: FORUM DTD Monday 27th Jan. 2014 - Winner was EVILPINGU (DIA) who had a score of 13 pts (made 1x FT) & Wins Entry to Mondays £33 BH GL in that : You aren't sure? Posted by Slipwater
At this late hour things can get a bit blurry! & I like to be polite ;-)
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Apology for Tone!!!! LOLOL!
My Wife always says that too!!
If it ain't broke don't fix it..... format seems to be spot on, it's up to us indies
to group up n maybe cap how many to a team. I'm more than happy to join a
team or start one.
Look forward to next Monday, it's events like this that keeps me at sites.
So keep up the good work Hitman n i'll see you on the tables.
Thxs stanford07.
However, we can't uninvent the wheel, so we have what we have and have to try and make the best of it.
Firstly......It's great to see you getting involved and making suggestions with a view to improve things, so thank you for your input.
I am a little tied up, but would be happy to discuss this in greater length and hopefully also get some possitive input from other players too.
If you can give me a little more time to respond a little later, then hopefully we can open up a positive discussion for all.
Thanks
Pokertrev..
Bear in mind also that although our member list now stands at 107 by my reckoning at least 40 of those are not currently active on Sky Poker. With regards to the DTD we do not recruit solely for DTD players although that is welcome and considering the size of the team our DTD turnout is quite modest. It is only recently that we have broken the 20 barrier and this week we were down to 15. Surely it wouldn't take too much effort for some of the other teams to catch up if they want to, and I can tell you that is not the case with all teams.
I didn't really want to wade in and post an opinion on this, because I usually keep my mouth shut
...but I'm on my lunch break, so figured I'd chuck in my thoughts.
Yes, it would make perfect sense for all teams to have the same number of participants. Eleven players on a football team; five players on a basketball team; fifteen players in a rugby squad. You don't have an imbalance there because, well... as you have alluded to - correctly, to some degree - it just isn't fair, is it?
And if this was a serious contest, I would agree. One hundred percent. Each team would be capped at (for instance) thirty members; rules would be set; penalties would be implemented for missing games; etc, etc.
But - for me at least - DTD, and more broadly, the function of each team, has never been about that. I'm a relatively new member of The HitSquad. Did I join because I thought they were the best team on Sky, with the biggest clout? No (sorry Dave!). Did I join because I thought they could help advance my game further than any other? No again. I joined because there was a core group of guys and girls that seemed to enjoy their games, and I thought it would be good to get to know a few of these people a little better. Forum friendship, if you like.
It would be relatively simple to implement a more rigid form of team-based competition, but the problem you will have is that - and somebody correct me if I'm speaking out of turn here - most forum regulars on Sky would rather a relaxed, no-strings, form of contest than a regimented league/ladder format, as you have alluded to. There are plenty of tournaments on every evening that takes care of serious competition.
This is just a bit of fun on the side, and we all like some of that
Excellent Post Brian Thank You!!!!!!!
Highlited is ONE OF MAIN REASON's I hope People Join!!
Rest is just sublime!! I may have to make you My HitSquad Team Diplomat, as I have a coarser Tongue, that is sometimes misread!!
Thanks also to Eyeman for taking time to consider others opinion, as I do try to myself!!
.........and they ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER!!!