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Really unusual spot - what would YOU do?
I played a Live Omaha MTT last week.
Please forget that it was Omaha, as this situation could happen in any game, & was quite a difficult decision. It could not happen Online, ever, so those who mostly play Online might struggle with the etiquette & ethicacy on this one.
We are mid-Tourney, I am first to act on the flop, & there are FOUR players behind me still in the pot.
I have 10-J-Q-K, the flop is 8-9-2 rainbow. That's a cracking Omaha hand on this Flop, I have outs galore, & we have all options open to us. I'm happy to go broke here, actually, & play it aggro.
Whilst I am perusing how best to play this - initially favouring betting the Pot - the chap to my immediate left - an elderly Gent - lifts his cards up, almost to his face, to see them better.
The mind is a strange thing. I want NOT to look, not to see them, but I can't help it, they are there, just to my left, & I can see them clearly. I am seat 3, Chap is Seat 4, the other 3 players are all opposite us, so THEY can't see what I've seen.
And my man has top set, 9-9-x-x in his hand......
What would you do now?
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Awkward, or what?
If I proceed as originally planned, I'm doing so with information on someone else's hand that other players don't have.
punch him?
slightly different, across the table there was a well known sky player in an spt lifting the cards up to see them whenever it was his turn to play. the person on his right could see his cards each time and always looked. i told him at the break. should I have acted differently?
Here's a sub-question...
What would you predict that Tikay acually did do?
I have seen the exact hand of Player B, but Players C & D have NOT.
Is that fair, right & proper? It is not just Player B & myself, if it were, this would be easy.
VERY tricky if the bloke has just been busted & then you tell him - & the other 2 players - I knew what he had from the start.
But there are 2 other players in the hand. We must consider them, too. We have information that they don't have.
The villain whose hand we've seen is in a real pickle. If he continues in the hand against any action from us, he's essentially announcing he's delighted with his hand. If we fold to any action from that villain, we essentially announce for him that he's delighted with his hand. If we check to him, what's he supposed to do?
What I'm saying is, there's no way for us to do this particular villain a favour. We can't whisper to him that we've seen his hand or we're essentially colluding with him. We can't announce that we've seen his hand without setting up an incredibly weird dynamic which levels everyone at the table. We obviously don't do him any favours by not telling him, either, as that allows us to play perfectly against his hand.
What I'm saying is that the villain has already messed the hand up for himself and there is nothing we can do to help him out. We probably do less to hurt him by keeping it to ourselves than announcing it.
That probably seems a little Machiavellian and I quite agree with Lambert's point on telling him after the hand... Might be uncomfortable.
A lot of people seem to be thinking that the "right" thing to do is announce that you've seen his hand. I'm not sure it's that simple, though, and that's what Tikay seems to be suggesting. One player to a hand, after all.