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fed up of whingers/its rigged????

bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
edited December 2009 in Poker Chat
as you guys will know i love the community and forum here on sky, but recently all i seem to be reading is stupid bad beat stories and people saying that sky is rigged..... even to the extent of ppl saying "typical sky" in the chat box when thier ace 10 loses to kq..

i dont know how many times we need to say this but :-

- its poker...its exactly the same regardless of which site you play on

- live poker is exactly the same

- keep getting your money in ahead, and you will be up in the long run!

- most peole only remember the bad beats on them and not when they outdraw others

some people are so "anti" sky poker at the moment that i have been told that

1 - im clueless
2 - talking out of my £%^&&%

for saying what i just said!!


ITS POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • POTTSY82POTTSY82 Member Posts: 220
    edited December 2009
    In Response to fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    as you guys will know i love the community and forum here on sky, but recently all i seem to be reading is stupid bad beat stories and people saying that sky is rigged..... even to the extent of ppl saying "typical sky" in the chat box when thier ace 10 loses to kq.. i dont know how many times we need to say this but :- - its poker...its exactly the same regardless of which site you play on - live poker is exactly the same - keep getting your money in ahead, and you will be up in the long run! - most peole only remember the bad beats on them and not when they outdraw others some people are so "anti" sky poker at the moment that i have been told that 1 - im clueless 2 - talking out of my £%^&&% for saying what i just said!! ITS POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by daz231023
     ^^ THIS
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited December 2009
    People don't like losing and people like to blame something for their misfortune.  If you play live poker for any length of time you'll see dealers get abused by the odd numptys.  They will also rip into whoever has, in their mind's, given them a bad beat.  In a funny way the internet has helped dealers get less abuse.

    However as with all things, a seed of doubt hurts from one bad apple hurts the image of the whole industry as well as providing fuel for the conspiracy theorists.  The events at Absolute/Ultimate really hurt as they were the first 'name' sites to have a scandal involving 'insiders.'

    I have no doubt that SkyPoker is completely on the level.  However if anything like the AP/UB events were proven to happen I, like many many others, would cash out and never look back.  This is the reason that no right minded company would ever rig a site, they would suffer destruction they could do little to recover from.  UB is only still just about going due to constant rebuilding/rebranding and assurances that it was just a couple of individuals who will be prosecuted.  The jury is still out if they will recover fully in such a competitive environment.  (I still will not and doubt I will ever open an account there).
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    People don't like losing and people like to blame something for their misfortune.  If you play live poker for any length of time you'll see dealers get abused by the odd numptys.  They will also rip into whoever has, in their mind's, given them a bad beat.  In a funny way the internet has helped dealers get less abuse. However as with all things, a seed of doubt hurts from one bad apple hurts the image of the whole industry as well as providing fuel for the conspiracy theorists.  The events at Absolute/Ultimate really hurt as they were the first 'name' sites to have a scandal involving 'insiders.' I have no doubt that SkyPoker is completely on the level.  However if anything like the AP/UB events were proven to happen I, like many many others, would cash out and never look back.  This is the reason that no right minded company would ever rig a site, they would suffer destruction they could do little to recover from.  UB is only still just about going due to constant rebuilding/rebranding and assurances that it was just a couple of individuals who will be prosecuted.  The jury is still out if they will recover fully in such a competitive environment.  (I still will not and doubt I will ever open an account there).
    Posted by TommyD
    i do play live tommy and have seen this quite alot.. its disgraceful they way some people talk to the dealers.. they are just doing thier jobs

    thanks for you view and gl at the tables
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  • bennydip2bennydip2 Member Posts: 2,093
    edited December 2009
    Tommy   the funny thing about  UB is ... I used to play there ...    But what a scam that was...  you'd have thought security would have been more alert to what the  insider was up to..  
    It's not the company's    none of them     it's someone looking to break the system, a bit like any other scam that can be operated with a fiddle, even some players themselves work at ways to cheat ,   as the old saying goes...

    'In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king"

    'Who can ya turn to" ?       :)) 
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  • DiggerManDiggerMan Member Posts: 1,027
    edited December 2009
    Daz
    As I said on the original thread (in case you couldn't be bothered to go back there! lol), it wasn't necessarily what you said as the way that you said it! What you said was quite correct but you put it across in a confrontational manner and they seemed to take offence. Keep on posting mate but maybe try to be a little more diplomatic!! lol
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  • darichdarich Member Posts: 969
    edited December 2009
    In Response to fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    as you guys will know i love the community and forum here on sky, but recently all i seem to be reading is stupid bad beat stories and people saying that sky is rigged..... even to the extent of ppl saying "typical sky" in the chat box when thier ace 10 loses to kq.. i dont know how many times we need to say this but :- - its poker...its exactly the same regardless of which site you play on - live poker is exactly the same - keep getting your money in ahead, and you will be up in the long run! - most peole only remember the bad beats on them and not when they outdraw others some people are so "anti" sky poker at the moment that i have been told that 1 - im clueless 2 - talking out of my £%^&&% for saying what i just said!! ITS POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by daz231023
    + 1

    I am fed up of the same boring individuals coming out with the same "it's fixed" rubbish time and time again, and being so contrite in their viewpoint.

    Stems from not knowing pot odds and having selective memories imo

    KK will bust AA 20% of the time. Hardly up there with the loaves and fishes in terms of miracles is it!
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2009
    it always makes me laugh when players say online poker is rigged, rigged for who exactly? these big poker sites make so much money from rake its unreal, there is noway they would jeopardize this by rigging anything unless they coud create a programme that could cold deck players making bigger pots in ringames and knocking players out of mtts and sngs so they can re-enter other tourneys thus creating more rake, more rake=more profit but hey they wouldnt do that would they???
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  • LMLLML Member Posts: 1,708
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    it always makes me laugh when players say online poker is rigged, rigged for who exactly? these big poker sites make so much money from rake its unreal, there is noway they would jeopardize this by rigging anything unless they coud create a programme that could cold deck players making bigger pots in ringames and knocking players out of mtts and sngs so they can re-enter other tourneys thus creating more rake, more rake=more profit but hey they wouldnt do that would they???
    Posted by N1CK

    I blame Orford.
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  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : I blame Orford.
    Posted by LML
    +1, its his fault
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  • LMLLML Member Posts: 1,708
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : +1, its his fault
    Posted by acebarry10

    Goes without saying really.

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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : Goes without saying really.
    Posted by LML
    i bet Orford gets blamed for everything, hes got that kind of face...
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  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : i bet Orford gets blamed for everything, hes got that kind of face...
    Posted by N1CK
    Lol, your not wrong
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : Lol, your not wrong
    Posted by acebarry10
    you can shut up i bet your next on the list lol
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  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    In Response to Re: fed up of whingers/its rigged???? : you can shut up i bet your next on the list lol
    Posted by N1CK
    Oh dont worry, Orford already know its his fault, you ask tikay and Lisa-Marie
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  • CHILLIECHILLIE Member Posts: 432
    edited December 2009
    anyone who thinks sky poker is rigged needs a reality check bad beats happen as do good wins you only moan when you get a bad beat but think how many times you give someone a bad beat if you dont like it dont play simples
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  • phil12ukphil12uk Member Posts: 2,856
    edited December 2009
    Daz - 100% behind you.  Bad beats will always happens, and happen more, when u get ur money in ahead and can only lose to the 'suckout'.

    You can either then whinge and moan about it, or pull up ur sleeves and try again.  What's the point of moving sites? The beats will still be there and will still occur. What about simply playing live and quitting online? The beats will still be there and will still occur!!!

    Do a bankroll challenge, keep on playing at the level ur comfortable at but please............. enough of the 'I quit threads'.  What do u expect to gain from them? Players will reply with a 'bye' or ' please stay' but when someone dares state that it is varience or something that's not wanting to be heard, they're then subjected to being moaned at!!!!!
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  • Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
    edited December 2009
    In Response to fed up of whingers/its rigged????:
    as you guys will know i love the community and forum here on sky, but recently all i seem to be reading is stupid bad beat stories and people saying that sky is rigged..... even to the extent of ppl saying "typical sky" in the chat box when thier ace 10 loses to kq.. i dont know how many times we need to say this but :- - its poker...its exactly the same regardless of which site you play on - live poker is exactly the same - keep getting your money in ahead, and you will be up in the long run! - most peole only remember the bad beats on them and not when they outdraw others some people are so "anti" sky poker at the moment that i have been told that 1 - im clueless 2 - talking out of my £%^&&% for saying what i just said!! ITS POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by daz231023
    Daz, I have typed "typical sky" in the chat box on a number of occasions after a bad beat. I doesn't mean I think its rigged (I don't). For me its just a light hearted comment no different from saying "typical poker" or "that's poker".  Playing many more hands online than in a live game means you will get bad beats more frequently and so, in effect, sky is giving you those bad beats. I draw solace from Salazar's comment that if you are good enough to go in ahead most of the time you will get more bad beats! I am hanging on to that in the hope that, maybe, it means I know what i'm doing.
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited December 2009
    Blaming bad beats on sky and it being fixed is just something bad players hide behind. More often than not the person who says its rigged is a losing player, maybe we should encourage them and then just take all their money without a bad beat, see what they say to that!!
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  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,831
    edited December 2009
    i had qq 3 of us left was 2nd in chips blinds quite high 2 get paid,shove shortie folds chip leader calls turns over j2 os,flop56j-j-8..busted i asked why he called,he said cuz he felt lucky cuz he was hittin,i said nh see you in ten minutes for the next game this was in the pub on boxing night with m8s you cant tell people what to do with there 2 cards and i could,nt wait for the next game to play with him again...bad beats happen all the time you have to get on with it
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2009
    I THINK MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE POSTS HERE ARE CORRECT,BUT I FEEL SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE PEOPLE ARE CONFUSING A BAD BEAT MOAN WITH AN AREA 51 POST OF IT IS FIXED.WE ALL KNOW YOU WILL GIVE AND RECIEVE BAD BEATS AND SOMEONE HERE COMMENTED THAT YOU ONLY RECALL THE BAD TIMES.BUT DONT ALSO FORGET THAT A GOOD MINDED PLAYER WILL NOT CHASE THE MIRACLE OUTER VERY OFTEN AT ALL WITH A TOURNY ON THE LINE SO THEREFORE WILL DISH OUT FAR FAR LESS BAD BEATS THAN ARE RECIEVED.GL ALL DEBS XX
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