In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : Takes a lot of skillz these Russian roulettes don't you know. Posted by FlashFlush
Anyone coulda had the points ive got if they were prepared to pay about £600 to get them.
I knew when promo started that i was gonna lose hundreds of pounds to get to where i am now but was happy to do that knowing that 1st or 2nd place in the promo would pay for my loss and i would then have all the rewards owed to me in rb and then be on a higher bracket in the rewards table so that i could then play cash tables for the next 2 weeks and have a nice payout at the end of it.
Also to answer a question what Lambert asked a few days ago, the reason the bronze tier had more than the silver tier for the first week of this promo is because i wanted to make certain that any of the guys who opted into the promo up until the 8th found the silver a more appealing tier to enter being less points and more cash etc and hopefully make the bronze have an easier run in during the double points for cash tables promo this week.
I should just add that this promo was all about making points and there were no rules about how to do it and i am far from the only one who is doing this, remember it takes someone else to join these things before the game starts and loads of the top scorers on the lbs are playing these aswell
FWIW i wont be doing this for the 2nd part of this promo cos like i said i will be playing the cash tables and am sick of the sight of RRs .
This promo just proves to me that being in priority is a total waste of time.
This month potentially I could make over 2k in cash from this promo, as I am aiming for 2nd in the 1st part and 1st in 2nd part of the gold leaderboard + all my rewards bonuses. Being in priority I have knowhere near come close to winning anything like the amount I could win this month. Then just don't bother playing much again till another promo like this comes along.
This promo just proves to me that being in priority is a total waste of time. This month potentially I could make over 2k in cash from this promo, as I am aiming for 2nd in the 1st part and 1st in 2nd part of the gold leaderboard + all my rewards bonuses. Being in priority I have knowhere near come close to winning anything like the amount I could win this month. Then just don't bother playing much again till another promo like this comes along. Posted by NAILS01197
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Anyone coulda had the points ive got if they were prepared to pay about £600 to get them. I knew when promo started that i was gonna lose hundreds of pounds to get to where i am now but was happy to do that knowing that 1st or 2nd place in the promo would pay for my loss and i would then have all the rewards owed to me in rb and then be on a higher bracket in the rewards table so that i could then play cash tables for the next 2 weeks and have a nice payout at the end of it. Also to answer a question what Lambert asked a few days ago, the reason the bronze tier had more than the silver tier for the first week of this promo is because i wanted to make certain that any of the guys who opted into the promo up until the 8th found the silver a more appealing tier to enter being less points and more cash etc and hopefully make the bronze have an easier run in during the double points for cash tables promo this week. I should just add that this promo was all about making points and there were no rules about how to do it and i am far from the only one who is doing this, remember it takes someone else to join these things before the game starts and loads of the top scorers on the lbs are playing these aswell FWIW i wont be doing this for the 2nd part of this promo cos like i said i will be playing the cash tables and am sick of the sight of RRs . Posted by _ARAZI_
Hi Arazi
I just dont get how playing RR's can be +ev for you. You have over 10k points and say it takes 14k to win the £850. I know you play normal tables but just say by way of example you are playing solely RR's ftw. Assuming that you win 50% of games. You have to rake £1400 to get 14000 points. Even when you add your rewards payment onto your assumed £850 win, you are still down !
Unless you can show me some calcs that show it to be different, I cant see it any other way. I appreciate there may be a slight variation from the 50% win rate but it wont be much either way with your volume.
It is also clear from this months tables, that the current sequence of promos has led some sky regs to use alternative sites until they have eligibility to qualify for the lucrative rake races currently being run. Sky have to deal with this to ensure there is a level playing field for all players and the players who are loyal to the site each month are not penalised by being excluded from rake races that the likes of DTM will jump on next month (if sky repeat this promo) having not played any volume this month.
Well the calcs are off cos there's no way he needs 14k points to win. He's on 10k points now and probably doesn't need to play another hand of poker in the last 4 days to win. Next closest is around 6k and it's took them 10 days to get that so they need to make 4k+ more in the next 4 days
It's probably +EV but no where near enough to be worth the hassle. Prob lost £1k in rake and then win £850 + about £200 assuming he doesn't play for the rest of the month.
In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : Hi Arazi I just dont get how playing RR's can be +ev for you. You have over 10k points and say it takes 14k to win the £850. I know you play normal tables but just say by way of example you are playing solely RR's ftw. Assuming that you win 50% of games. You have to rake £1400 to get 14000 points. Even when you add your rewards payment onto your assumed £850 win, you are still down ! Unless you can show me some calcs that show it to be different, I cant see it any other way. I appreciate there may be a slight variation from the 50% win rate but it wont be much either way with your volume. It is also clear from this months tables, that the current sequence of promos has led some sky regs to use alternative sites until they have eligibility to qualify for the lucrative rake races currently being run. Sky have to deal with this to ensure there is a level playing field for all players and the players who are loyal to the site each month are not penalised by being excluded from rake races that the likes of DTM will jump on next month (if sky repeat this promo) having not played any volume this month. Posted by ACEGOONER
Hi mate.
Your calcs are right and if i had ran at break even pace it 100% def wouldnt be worth me doing this but when i started playing these i thought that a score of around 6-8k would win the bronze tier so i was prepared to lose a good few hundred quid to get a few 1000 points headstart on the competion then play cash to get me to the score i needed.
However as i started noticing some of the names appearing on the bronze tier it became clear that 8k would def not win it and like i said on the other post there was still up until the 8th to opt in so i decided to just blast through the RRs and make sure i stayed ahead of the silver tier until after the opt in time had gone.
As i type this i have 11300 points and have lost exactly £643 to get them so i must have ran pretty well in them cos a massive % of the total has came from RRs.
If i won the lb at this point it would mean that i have made £207 off the promo plus £210+ rb along with the fact i am now only 8700 points away from the 25% bracket and have also got into prio and am able to play the main and mini prio tournies so as far as i am concerned it has been worth doing but like i said i have ran well in them. FWIW though i wont be doing it again cos they melt your brain mate and it just seemed like a good idea at the time
i In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : Hi mate. Your calcs are right and if i had ran at break even pace it 100% def wouldnt be worth me doing this but when i started playing these i thought that a score of around 6-8k would win the bronze tier so i was prepared to lose a good few hundred quid to get a few 1000 points headstart on the competion then play cash to get me to the score i needed. However as i started noticing some of the names appearing on the bronze tier it became clear that 8k would def not win it and like i said on the other post there was still up until the 8th to opt in so i decided to just blast through the RRs and make sure i stayed ahead of the silver tier until after the opt in time had gone. As i type this i have 11300 points and have lost exactly £643 to get them so i must have ran pretty well in them cos a massive % of the total has came from RRs. If i won the lb at this point it would mean that i have made £207 off the promo plus £210+ rb along with the fact i am now only 8700 points away from the 25% bracket and have also got into prio and am able to play the main and mini prio tournies so as far as i am concerned it has been worth doing but like i said i have ran well in them. FWIW though i wont be doing it again cos they melt your brain mate and it just seemed like a good idea at the time Posted by _ARAZI_
So thats worked out pretty well for you then. My original comments where not a slant at you, but just based on pure mathematical theory. I dont know how many you have played exactly but as you have said if it worked out below EV the outcome could have been totally different. You just run golden!
I guess you had an inflexion point of 8,500 in your head where it made sense to play them as it meant a very good chance of a profit to you. The second point I made about regs switching sites then coming back this month seems to have come into play for you.
In my opinion sky should exclude priority players for 3 or even 6 months from promos aimed at recs but even then the reality is that there are ways of getting around this. At the end of the day this is business and the sites aim to survive and prosper, which means attract new players and get existing ones to up their volume.
Why is it that you have the 3 leaderboards for differrent levels so that we are playing on an even level however the lowest level which i play at(bronze) where on average you earn between 100 and 2999 points per month that this leaderboard can have a chip leader with over 11000 points and nobody will get near him. surely this should not be allowed he should be in silver or gold with that amount of points i am sure i am not the only one who thinks this is very unfair and just goes to show that these leaderboards are not aimed so we all have a chance, very unfair and just helps to push more pepole away from this site.
Anyone coulda had the points ive got if they were prepared to pay about £600 to get them. I knew when promo started that i was gonna lose hundreds of pounds to get to where i am now but was happy to do that knowing that 1st or 2nd place in the promo would pay for my loss and i would then have all the rewards owed to me in rb and then be on a higher bracket in the rewards table so that i could then play cash tables for the next 2 weeks and have a nice payout at the end of it. Also to answer a question what Lambert asked a few days ago, the reason the bronze tier had more than the silver tier for the first week of this promo is because i wanted to make certain that any of the guys who opted into the promo up until the 8th found the silver a more appealing tier to enter being less points and more cash etc and hopefully make the bronze have an easier run in during the double points for cash tables promo this week. I should just add that this promo was all about making points and there were no rules about how to do it and i am far from the only one who is doing this, remember it takes someone else to join these things before the game starts and loads of the top scorers on the lbs are playing these aswell FWIW i wont be doing this for the 2nd part of this promo cos like i said i will be playing the cash tables and am sick of the sight of RRs . Posted by _ARAZI_
what a load of bull, you purely took advantage of a bad structred and worded event, i bet you regularly earn massive points and took advantage of the way that most of us less playing and smaller stake playing folk thought we would be playing in not knowing that you bigger point earning fish could also be in
In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : what a load of bull, you purely took advantage of a bad structred and worded event, i bet you regularly earn massive points and took advantage of the way that most of us less playing and smaller stake playing folk thought we would be playing in not knowing that you bigger point earning fish could also be in Posted by hoggarth08
Before you direct this at me you should take a close look at alot of the names on the bronze lb because alot of those players joined that tier for the same reason as me thinking it would be the easiest to win and there are names on there that play the highest stakes on the site.
In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : Before you direct this at me you should take a close look at alot of the names on the bronze lb because alot of those players joined that tier for the same reason as me thinking it would be the easiest to win and there are names on there that play the highest stakes on the site. I am only leading it that is all Posted by _ARAZI_
I agree, the innuendo tone of his post is rather dim.
I'm sure next time Sky run a similar promo, they'll make it stake/BI based. But either way, the promo has worked well because people have upped their volume.
In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards... : I agree, the innuendo tone of his post is rather dim. I'm sure next time Sky run a similar promo, they'll make it stake/BI based. But either way, the promo has worked well because people have upped their volume. Posted by splashies
Why is it that you have the 3 leaderboards for differrent levels so that we are playing on an even level however the lowest level which i play at(bronze) where on average you earn between 100 and 2999 points per month that this leaderboard can have a chip leader with over 11000 points and nobody will get near him. surely this should not be allowed he should be in silver or gold with that amount of points i am sure i am not the only one who thinks this is very unfair and just goes to show that these leaderboards are not aimed so we all have a chance, very unfair and just helps to push more pepole away from this site. Posted by hoggarth08
You make it sound like everyone has to play the same volume every month. In the 2 months this year I made priority one month and 600 points the next and as a result I have ended up in the bronze leaderboard. This isn't Sky's fault and there is nothing wrong with the promo...it just reflects that as the vast majority of the players here are recreational players there are going to be times when they can play and times when they can't.
Arazi has clearly decided to up his volume this month which is exactly what a leaderboard is designed for. Fair play to him. If you had done the same surely your chances would have been better. People need to stop expecting to pick up money in promos without putting some effort in and raising their game/volume.
I for one applaud arazi, saw a gap in the market and took it, and everyone has the chance to do the same.Whichever way u get the points still have to put the volume in, great promo which everyone has a chance of some FREE CASH.
As I write, the gold and silver boards are now showing that you have to be placed in the top 25 positions to receive a reward. Somebody please tell me that this is a temporary glitch.
As I write, the gold and silver boards are now showing that you have to be placed in the top 25 positions to receive a reward. Somebody please tell me that this is a temporary glitch. Edit, please ignore, they're now sorted. Posted by Macacgirl1
Hello,
This was a mistake on our end that has been rectified. Apologies for the confusion.
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I knew when promo started that i was gonna lose hundreds of pounds to get to where i am now but was happy to do that knowing that 1st or 2nd place in the promo would pay for my loss and i would then have all the rewards owed to me in rb and then be on a higher bracket in the rewards table so that i could then play cash tables for the next 2 weeks and have a nice payout at the end of it.
Also to answer a question what Lambert asked a few days ago, the reason the bronze tier had more than the silver tier for the first week of this promo is because i wanted to make certain that any of the guys who opted into the promo up until the 8th found the silver a more appealing tier to enter being less points and more cash etc and hopefully make the bronze have an easier run in during the double points for cash tables promo this week.
I should just add that this promo was all about making points and there were no rules about how to do it and i am far from the only one who is doing this, remember it takes someone else to join these things before the game starts and loads of the top scorers on the lbs are playing these aswell
FWIW i wont be doing this for the 2nd part of this promo cos like i said i will be playing the cash tables and am sick of the sight of RRs
This promo just proves to me that being in priority is a total waste of time.
This month potentially I could make over 2k in cash from this promo, as I am aiming for 2nd in the 1st part
and 1st in 2nd part of the gold leaderboard + all my rewards bonuses. Being in priority I have knowhere near come close to winning anything like the amount I could win this month. Then just don't bother playing much again till another promo like this comes along.
Hey, can you do smiley faces? PM me if you want to know how.
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In Response to Re: £30,000 Gold, Silver, Bronze Rewards Leaderboards...:
Hi mate.
Your calcs are right and if i had ran at break even pace it 100% def wouldnt be worth me doing this but when i started playing these i thought that a score of around 6-8k would win the bronze tier so i was prepared to lose a good few hundred quid to get a few 1000 points headstart on the competion then play cash to get me to the score i needed.
However as i started noticing some of the names appearing on the bronze tier it became clear that 8k would def not win it and like i said on the other post there was still up until the 8th to opt in so i decided to just blast through the RRs and make sure i stayed ahead of the silver tier until after the opt in time had gone.
As i type this i have 11300 points and have lost exactly £643 to get them so i must have ran pretty well in them cos a massive % of the total has came from RRs.
If i won the lb at this point it would mean that i have made £207 off the promo plus £210+ rb along with the fact i am now only 8700 points away from the 25% bracket and have also got into prio and am able to play the main and mini prio tournies so as far as i am concerned it has been worth doing but like i said i have ran well in them. FWIW though i wont be doing it again cos they melt your brain mate and it just seemed like a good idea at the time
Before you direct this at me you should take a close look at alot of the names on the bronze lb because alot of those players joined that tier for the same reason as me thinking it would be the easiest to win and there are names on there that play the highest stakes on the site.
I am only leading it that is all
Arazi has clearly decided to up his volume this month which is exactly what a leaderboard is designed for. Fair play to him. If you had done the same surely your chances would have been better. People need to stop expecting to pick up money in promos without putting some effort in and raising their game/volume.
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Edit, please ignore, they're now sorted.
This was a mistake on our end that has been rectified. Apologies for the confusion.
Cheers,
Justin