In Response to Re: SKY POKER HAS REALLY GONE DOWNHILL - JOKE OF A SITE : True...there is....but should it be more of a case of what is right? To openly promote that your site is totally random and then pass off the inconcievable amount of spurious bad beats as "variance" with highly paid TV Presenters in the vain attempt to placate and hide some of the realities? I dont mind losing, and the fair share of bad beats.....but i do expect to be treated fairly and have a fair and just site to play on! So, before you consider comedy as a career, i would think again! Posted by Si_Pies
Comedy as a career? What are you on about?
Look at your own game. Look at all the decisions you make. All the plays you do. Question everything. Then question it again. Look to improve your game through hard work, instead of taking the easy (cowards?) way out and blaming the site. Only then will you see an improvement in your results/skills.
Si pies or should I say Kadz? lol Here's a review off poker scout from January 2013 see if you can spot the similarities: " I've been analysing sky for more than 10,000 hands (MMT) and over 7,000 hands (cash games) to establish whether the dealt hole cards and bad beats are correlated with the accepted statistics of both random draw (hole cards) and likely win odds for sklansky group 1 dealt hole cards versus actual wins with group 1 cards (bad beats) on the site. By new year's day (2013) - i had established a very significant sample of data which show a higher bad beat scenario than would be statsitcially viable. The difference was significant enough that winning with the sklansky group 1 cards when dealt could be considered equal to losing with the same cards. This can be considered an outlier in correlation terms. In dealt hole cards, sky dealt so significantly lower valued cards and combinations of cards that their RNG could be questioned (over those sample data). However, the situation suddenly changed on new year's day when i made the mistake of commenting on the flaws in the RNG algorithm during a tournament in the chat box to another player. Within 3 hands, and for the next 250 hands my data showed a complete reversal with a very very high average dealt hole card value and 100% hit on the board (even with group 2 cards). That's a 100% hit in 250 hands where every hand hit a match on the board. Also - there were zero bad beats for any of my hands. In the last hand of the tournament in heads up, my opponent's A high hand was bad beat by my K high hand. It's almost like it's word for word the same......oh wait it is! Plagarise much do you?! http://www.pokerscout.com/AllReviews.aspx?id=608 Posted by jdsallstar
POWNED (This is someting my son says, I am not sure the exact meaning but think it fits here) Well played jd well played.
Si pies or should I say Kadz? lol Here's a review off poker scout from January 2013 see if you can spot the similarities: " I've been analysing sky for more than 10,000 hands (MMT) and over 7,000 hands (cash games) to establish whether the dealt hole cards and bad beats are correlated with the accepted statistics of both random draw (hole cards) and likely win odds for sklansky group 1 dealt hole cards versus actual wins with group 1 cards (bad beats) on the site. By new year's day (2013) - i had established a very significant sample of data which show a higher bad beat scenario than would be statsitcially viable. The difference was significant enough that winning with the sklansky group 1 cards when dealt could be considered equal to losing with the same cards. This can be considered an outlier in correlation terms. In dealt hole cards, sky dealt so significantly lower valued cards and combinations of cards that their RNG could be questioned (over those sample data). However, the situation suddenly changed on new year's day when i made the mistake of commenting on the flaws in the RNG algorithm during a tournament in the chat box to another player. Within 3 hands, and for the next 250 hands my data showed a complete reversal with a very very high average dealt hole card value and 100% hit on the board (even with group 2 cards). That's a 100% hit in 250 hands where every hand hit a match on the board. Also - there were zero bad beats for any of my hands. In the last hand of the tournament in heads up, my opponent's A high hand was bad beat by my K high hand. It's almost like it's word for word the same......oh wait it is! Plagarise much do you?! http://www.pokerscout.com/AllReviews.aspx?id=608 Posted by jdsallstar
haha.
it's a shame people aren't allowed to play TOTP 2 months in a row.
Well..... now this IS interesting as I happen to know who posted that original post on Poker Scout and he's a complete tool.
And...... he's also Forum banned and Sky banned.
So, what we have here is one of two things........
Either, Si_Pies has blatantly plagiarised a deeply, deeply flawed post made by a very bitter and frankly deluded individual. Or..... It's his own work and we're dealing with a multi accounting banned player!
Another thread that, as usual, tries to blame the site for people losing. Yawn
Over the last 4 weeks I have turned my Bank Roll for £0.69 to £203.... Yes bit of a brag, but the way I did was by playing within my Bank Roll,,, not difficult with 69p to start, and by concentrating in improving my game
Stop looking to the site for any losses and try and look at your own game
Another thread that, as usual, tries to blame the site for people losing. Yawn Over the last 4 weeks I have turned my Bank Roll for £0.69 to £203.... Yes bit of a brag, but the way I did was by playing within my Bank Roll,,, not difficult with 69p to start, and by concentrating in improving my game Stop looking to the site for any losses and try and look at your own game Posted by JockBMW
£0.69 to £203 in 4 weeks?? Sure that isn't a typo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,???
ahhhhh, pokerscout. Got to love the crayon munchers on there. This one couldn't be much more wrong
Rating:
1 / 10
By:
Anonymous
Date:
Monday, October 14, 2013
Title:
So obviously rigged
6 out of 8 readers found this review helpful
For a start I noticed a stupidly abnormal amount of pairs on the flops, me and somebody else at the table started counting and twice we saw 7 out of 8 flops included pairs, the deals are not random at all. Then as everybody else has mentioned the bad beats, I lost on the river pretty much every time, to the same person strangely enough, called "Donttelmum", who when I checked through the tables, found "she" was playing at 9 different tables simultaneously, but called/folded/checked/raised as quick as everybody else on every table, impossible for a human.. Whoever is in charge of deeming whether a site is rigged or not has taken an enormous back-hander from sky. STAY WELL CLEAR!!
ahhhhh, pokerscout. Got to love the crayon munchers on there. This one couldn't be much more wrong Rating: 1 / 10 By: Anonymous Date: Monday, October 14, 2013 Title: So obviously rigged 6 out of 8 readers found this review helpful For a start I noticed a stupidly abnormal amount of pairs on the flops, me and somebody else at the table started counting and twice we saw 7 out of 8 flops included pairs, the deals are not random at all. Then as everybody else has mentioned the bad beats, I lost on the river pretty much every time, to the same person strangely enough, called "Donttelmum", who when I checked through the tables, found "she" was playing at 9 different tables simultaneously, but called/folded/checked/raised as quick as everybody else on every table, impossible for a human.. Whoever is in charge of deeming whether a site is rigged or not has taken an enormous back-hander from sky. STAY WELL CLEAR!! Posted by cenachav
In Response to Re: SKY POKER HAS REALLY GONE DOWNHILL - JOKE OF A SITE : £0.69 to £203 in 4 weeks?? Sure that isn't a typo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,??? Posted by dominon105
Actually just checked out the dates 6th March BR £0.69p 20th March £207.91 So it took me 2 weeks. Send you a PM with the details Dominion.
In Response to Re: SKY POKER HAS REALLY GONE DOWNHILL - JOKE OF A SITE : Actually just checked out the dates 6th March BR £0.69p 20th March £207.91 So it took me 2 weeks. Send you a PM with the details Dominion. Posted by JockBMW
Can't believe no-one has mentioned that calling 17,000 hands a substantial sample is laughable. Not a brag but I've played 100,000 hands in 1 month before. 17k is nothing and no where even close to being able to make a single conclusion based on
Can't believe no-one has mentioned that calling 17,000 hands a substantial sample is laughable. Not a brag but I've played 100,000 hands in 1 month before. 17k is nothing and no where even close to being able to make a single conclusion based on Posted by Lambert180
Think you have missed the point here. The sample size given is perfect. It is big enough to impress the people with no concept of probabilities and statistics and still small enough to be meaningless.
The other point of these statistics are the bias involved. A hypothesis was determined and then the statistics were used to proove it was correct. So we have conclusions drawn before the results came. This is the standard way of doing things to proove points. Only conclusions drawn after the results come in can have any possible meaning.
Always remember the old saying. There are lies, dam lies and statistics.
Can't believe no-one has mentioned that calling 17,000 hands a substantial sample is laughable. Not a brag but I've played 100,000 hands in 1 month before. 17k is nothing and no where even close to being able to make a single conclusion based on Posted by Lambert180
+1 to this. (not the part about playing 100k hands though lol)
I have seen you tube videos where people run hand/statistical analysis on data but its 250,000 hands plus. And the RNG's check out :-D
From memory there was no presumption from analyzing the data, I think they used examples of AA KK etc and simply used the preflop percentages as a basis for analysis.
ok i put 6 quid in and managed to turn it in to 125 quid so i think the software likes me but on my way to that 125 quid i sufferd quite alot of unreal beats..
my advice is keep plugging away varience will turn for you and you will eventually crush the bad callers
I was playing monopoly once with my brothers and they rolled pocket sixes twice in a row! That's like getting dealt AA 4 times, getting it all in pre and losing it all 4 times. That's just so unlikely that I immediately questioned the integrity of the dice, and refused to play on until the dice was changed.
I was playing monopoly once with my brothers and they rolled pocket sixes twice in a row! That's like getting dealt AA 4 times, getting it all in pre and losing it all 4 times. That's just so unlikely that I immediately questioned the integrity of the dice, and refused to play on until the dice was changed. Posted by F_Ivanovic
In Response to THIS DATA IS VERY EYE OPENING - SKY SHOULD BE ASHAMED : whan an absolute load of rubbish, ive played you many times in the mtts on here and you do nothing but complain in the chatbox about bad beats and other peoples play, how you have the cheek il never know, u limp call all the time regardless of stack size and position, maybe cut this out of ur game and u will recieve less bad beats and stop getting owned all the time!!! Posted by THEROCK573
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Look at your own game. Look at all the decisions you make. All the plays you do. Question everything. Then question it again. Look to improve your game through hard work, instead of taking the easy (cowards?) way out and blaming the site. Only then will you see an improvement in your results/skills.
Good luck.
POWNED (This is someting my son says, I am not sure the exact meaning but think it fits here)
Well played jd well played.
it's a shame people aren't allowed to play TOTP 2 months in a row.
Well..... now this IS interesting as I happen to know who posted that original post on Poker Scout and he's a complete tool.
And...... he's also Forum banned and Sky banned.
So, what we have here is one of two things........
Either, Si_Pies has blatantly plagiarised a deeply, deeply flawed post made by a very bitter and frankly deluded individual. Or..... It's his own work and we're dealing with a multi accounting banned player!
DTM is a bot.
No probs Jock
Look forward to chatting to you more
I have seen you tube videos where people run hand/statistical analysis on data but its 250,000 hands plus. And the RNG's check out :-D
From memory there was no presumption from analyzing the data, I think they used examples of AA KK etc and simply used the preflop percentages as a basis for analysis.
Are those odds really comparable?