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Is this a fold on the river (second nut flush, paired board)?

Padzz77Padzz77 Member Posts: 143
edited June 2014 in The Poker Clinic

This was the mini BH, about 190 left, I was about 30th.

As played, should this have been a fold on the river?  I was expecting to be beat, but decided to call on the off chance it was a bluff.

Would it have been better to bet/fold, because then I could have been more certain that it was not a bluff?

Should I have gone all in on the turn?  I don't think so, but would be interested in opinions.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
DUMBOY Small blind  75.00 75.00 5890.00
Padzz77 Big blind  150.00 225.00 8870.00
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • K
     
KP301 Fold     
Enut Fold     
nervesof Fold     
rupert1969 Raise  300.00 525.00 4465.00
DUMBOY Fold     
Padzz77 Call  150.00 675.00 8720.00
Flop
   
  • 7
  • J
  • 10
     
Padzz77 Check     
rupert1969 Bet  337.50 1012.50 4127.50
Padzz77 Call  337.50 1350.00 8382.50
Turn
   
  • 6
     
Padzz77 Check     
rupert1969 Bet  675.00 2025.00 3452.50
Padzz77 Raise  2025.00 4050.00 6357.50
rupert1969 Call  1350.00 5400.00 2102.50
River
   
  • 7
     
Padzz77 Check     
rupert1969 All-in  2102.50 7502.50 0.00
Padzz77 Raise  4205.00 11707.50 2152.50
Padzz77 Unmatched bet  2102.50 9605.00 4255.00
Padzz77 Show
  • 2
  • K
   
rupert1969 Show
  • 10
  • 10
   
rupert1969 Win Full House, 10s and 7s 9605.00

Comments

  • BigHawk89BigHawk89 Member Posts: 627
    edited June 2014
    You'll probably get better answers if you leave out the result. 

    Its easy to give advice on the hand when you know the outcome.
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited June 2014
    I think you've played it ok. I'd be setting him in on the river after raising the turn, we dont want him to check behind with OK showdown value. 

    I think i jam the turn purely not wanting to see a 4th spade or board pairing to possibly kill the action. And if not there is a decent amount in the middle up for grabs.

    As played with 5400 in the middle and him having 2100 i don't see the point in bet folding. 

    And i dont think you should be folding that river either, but its close
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited June 2014
    It's a fold pre.

    Sickening river but I think it is a fold. The only non-made hands that call the turn raise imo are something with the Ace of spades.

    The made hands he might call the turn with are most likely straights and sets.

    On the river he's never gonna try and turn a straight into a bluff with less than 1/2 pot behind, or shove it for value, and we can't beat sets (now FHs)... we also can't beat the Ace spade hands which were some of the few non-made hands he'd call the turn with imo. 

    By river I just don't think we beat anything, as sick as it is.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2014
    getting over 3/1 with a suited K vs a btn range. fold pre - u joking right?

    prob raise flop but call is fine. I'd rather jam river than c/c because I don't expect him to turn any pairs into bluffs and he's not shoving Qs when checked to but might call off

    edit: just seen board pairing otr. C/f is fine because again I don't think he's turning lower pairs into bluffs
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