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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,395
    edited June 2014
    Think this thread had the right title because that's all i've read on it.
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : Criticise someone's grammar...lolz You know what I think when I see someone do that "Small" Good comeback peewee
    Posted by igimc
    Oh go on then.

    You know what I think when I see the dross you write?
    Oh, nevermind
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    Think this thread had the right title because that's all i've read on it.
    Posted by VespaPX
    Oh, come on Vespa.

    Maxally was funny :)
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,395
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : Oh, come on Vespa. Maxally was funny :)
    Posted by Jac35
    Haha i'll give you that one.
  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : First of all, I haven't said it is. I'm just not gullible enough to believe that It isn't. Without anything to back that up Except the old "why would they" argument.  Why would MPs fake their expenses.... Why would NOTW hack phones.... The answer. ....Because they could... Just because YOU can't see a reason, doesn't mean there isn't one that's waaaayyyy over your head.... "Why would they ain't good enough. Rant over.:)
    Posted by igimc

    No, the answer was because it made them more money they didnt do it just for the craic! 

    Using that logic though, I dont see how sky would make more money from a rigged rng. Someone will always come up with the "to create action and therefore more rake" argument but anyone who has ever played this wonderful game will know you do not need to be holding premium hands to see action. The game creates action all by itself which is why it's such a popular game to begin with. Secondly, that argument only applies to cash games in any case. Tourneys and sng's lift the same rake whether your AA holds or gets out drawn by 7 2 off.

    I think the biggest argument that shows the rng is not rigged is sharkscope graphs. If the rng was rigged how can you explain the very very smooth graphs (upwards or downwards) when players have big sample sizes?! If the rng was rigged with probabilities all over the place surely this wouldnt be possible?! These smooth graphs only lend weight to the argument that over a big sample size the probabilities are reliable.

    The players who play the most online poker also tend to play across multiple sites, surely by doing this they would notice a rigged rng and not come back? Why would sky want to scare off their most profitable and reliable income streams?! Maybe you'd say the site fixes the rng for profitable regs to keep they coming back?! but if the new players just lose they wouldnt come back and the regs would have nothing to feed off and also there are plenty of regs with very smooth downward graphs. Two graphs at the bottom to highlight this.

    Finally, if poker sites were rigged surely someone would have proved it by now. It couldnt be that hard?

    There's plenty of arguments why they wouldnt choose to have a fixed rng, Ive yet to hear one plausible argument why they would want one.

    Balanced post over :)




  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    edited June 2014
    Great post JD 

    Unfortunately you're wasting your time with some people

  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited June 2014
    thanks mate and I know. 

    You just cant talk to people when glue's involved :)

    I just cant resist a good argument though.


  • jade1981jade1981 Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2014
    Just my 10p worth on the "why would they"...
    As a company, if companies could run themselves, they wouldn't. BUt there are corrupt individuals all over. So in answer to the question... Because the crppy gambling company THEY work for, doesn't pay enough and doesn't care if their staff rip off customers, as long as they implement some sort of security and abide by the rules as a whole. Individuals can be blamed and punished individually, when caught.
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : Absolute classic lol...Rollaaaaand was hilarious
    Posted by igimc

    WOW!! 737 posts and this is the first one from you where you haven't been negative or just rude.
    Congrats.

    Keep it up.
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : And isn't it?
    Posted by igimc


    Spoke too soon I guess.
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : And there he is. Where dumb is dumbers not far behind. Or are yous the same person?.. hmmmm. 
    Posted by igimc

    DOHHH!!
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    edited June 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : DOHHH!!
    Posted by jonjo75
    No, no! 
    It's not Dohhh, Jonjo

    He thinks Hyftdtryr and Jac35 are the same person

    Actually. Spose he may think that Dohhh is the same person as well :)
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2014
    Ig doesn't like Doh either :(

    Good stuff JD. Surprised you got the graphs approved.

    Im sure you didn't need to ask Dons permission to publish his graph.

    But surprised Lambert let you post his, good job he's handy at cash/a sky favourite eh :D  
  • somersomer Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2014
    The site is perfectly placed to resolve any disagreement/concern over the RNG it simply has to post details of the latest independent audit on the operating systems.

  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    Ig doesn't like Doh either :( Good stuff JD. Surprised you got the graphs approved. Im sure you didn't need to ask Dons permission to publish his graph. But surprised Lambert let you post his, good job he's handy at cash/a sky favourite eh :D  
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    This isnt true...I do like you,...you're probably wondering where you
    went wrong for this to happen though. :)
  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it:
    In Response to Re: what a load of sh it : No, the answer was because it made them more money they didnt do it just for the craic!  Using that logic though, I dont see how sky would make more money from a rigged rng. Someone will always come up with the "to create action and therefore more rake" argument but anyone who has ever played this wonderful game will know you do not need to be holding premium hands to see action. The game creates action all by itself which is why it's such a popular game to begin with. Secondly, that argument only applies to cash games in any case. Tourneys and sng's lift the same rake whether your AA holds or gets out drawn by 7 2 off. I think the biggest argument that shows the rng is not rigged is sharkscope graphs. If the rng was rigged how can you explain the very very smooth graphs (upwards or downwards) when players have big sample sizes?! If the rng was rigged with probabilities all over the place surely this wouldnt be possible?! These smooth graphs only lend weight to the argument that over a big sample size the probabilities are reliable. The players who play the most online poker also tend to play across multiple sites, surely by doing this they would notice a rigged rng and not come back? Why would sky want to scare off their most profitable and reliable income streams?! Maybe you'd say the site fixes the rng for profitable regs to keep they coming back?! but if the new players just lose they wouldnt come back and the regs would have nothing to feed off and also there are plenty of regs with very smooth downward graphs. Two graphs at the bottom to highlight this. Finally, if poker sites were rigged surely someone would have proved it by now. It couldnt be that hard? There's plenty of arguments why they wouldnt choose to have a fixed rng, Ive yet to hear one plausible argument why they would want one. Balanced post over :)
    Posted by jdsallstar
    It was a good post.....
    Can't really argue with anything youv'e said...And you
    know i like an argument...:(
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