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3rd nuts vs 220bb allin, Beginning of Superroller.

Clyde420Clyde420 Member Posts: 82
edited August 2014 in The Poker Clinic
 I decided to call here after thinking he could have the same hand or maybe 1010, It's so early and so many bb's. I Just can't get it into my head to fold here. Actually stopped playing for the night as I've realised I may be playing very bad while deep stacked.
Was it Bad? How Bad?

Thanks...


Hand History #801564327 (20:13 27/07/2014)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
CharlieF29Small blind 20.0020.009820.00
IHazeBig blind 40.0060.0010440.00
 Your hole cards
  • J
  • Q
   
chicknMeltFold    
Clyde420Raise 120.00180.0011550.00
marcnyrFold    
terrier922Fold    
CharlieF29Fold    
IHazeCall 80.00260.0010360.00
Flop
  
  • 8
  • J
  • 8
   
IHazeCheck    
Clyde420Check    
Turn
  
  • J
   
IHazeBet 40.00300.0010320.00
Clyde420Call 40.00340.0011510.00
River
  
  • 10
   
IHazeBet 255.00595.0010065.00
Clyde420Raise 790.001385.0010720.00
IHazeAll-in 10065.0011450.000.00
Clyde420Call 9530.0020980.001190.00
IHazeShow
  • 8
  • 8
   
Clyde420Show
  • J
  • Q
   
IHazeWinFour 8s20980.00 20980.00
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited July 2014
    I would just fold mate, because it's obvious we have a Jack, hence why he has jammed with the massive overbet.

    This is hardly ever a split pot imo/ bluff, it's pretty much always the nuts.

    And you don't really want to be calling for a split pot.

    We are so deep, just fold and wait for far better spots.
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  • Clyde420Clyde420 Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: 3rd nuts vs 220bb allin, Beginning of Superroller.:
    I would just fold mate, because it's obvious we have a Jack, hence why he has jammed with the massive overbet. This is hardly ever a split pot imo/ bluff, it's pretty much always the nuts. And you don't really want to be calling for a split pot. We are so deep, just fold and wait for far better spots.
    Posted by LARSON7

     Thanks bud.. I didn't even think anything of it until a player told me it was alot of bb's to call with my hand. 

     I think I need to learn poker, i'v played with friends for years, and read 2 books, but I think there is alot I am missing...

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  • Nuggy962Nuggy962 Member Posts: 1,104
    edited July 2014
    Really hard one.

    Knowing only ever getting a split pot there at best I fold. I have learnt that in deep stacks its far better to pick up little pots then make a loose call when an op shoves. Nearlly always have it in early stages.

    Totally get why you called though. Whn only being beat by the 88 is hard to fold!

    Run well
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  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited July 2014
    I think this is almost always quads. Fold
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited July 2014
    Nuggy we are beaten by JT as well. If T was a 3 though it would be much harder to fold. We have 47.5% equity if he's shoving every J and 88. But when it's a T we only have 40% equity. More-over with a T on board it's even less likely that villain would reshove with any jack.

    Nobody except really bad players are shoving TT here.. it would be a complete over-play. 
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited July 2014
    Q9c/79c as well.....Unlikely but can't be discounted.

    I'd fold, more concerned about J10 than quads.
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  • Clyde420Clyde420 Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2014
     omg, my head must have been so far up my donkey. I didn't even think about the J10 or the lower Str8Flush, was only really worried about the 88. Laughing my head off now though, my missus just reminded me its the 1st time i'v ever played without smoking, not had any for 4 days. 

     Think I need to check through my hands and see if I've been missing stuff in the past, if not I guess I need to start smoking again.

     Thanks for the replys guys, some of the most helpfull i'v ever had on my game.


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  • Clyde420Clyde420 Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2014
     Congrats to IHaze, he's doing awesome with the chips...
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2014
    Bet flop for value

    Anyone flat river? Minbet on turn followed by chunky river bet looks weird to me. Not sure we get much value looks like nuts or air, weighted to nuts

    As played think you have to fold you are splitting at best
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  • HaemophileHaemophile Member Posts: 104
    edited August 2014
    im not this sort of high stakes player and this might not make sense to other 6 max players as i usually play full ring but utg+1 with Qjo is fold pre to me
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2014
    Utg+1 fullring maybe its a  fold pre but deffo not 6max imo. Depends how good you are postflop and how wide you think people peel pre but readless I'm deffo opening here
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  • HaemophileHaemophile Member Posts: 104
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: 3rd nuts vs 220bb allin, Beginning of Superroller.:
    Utg+1 fullring maybe its a  fold pre but deffo not 6max imo. Depends how good you are postflop and how wide you think people peel pre but readless I'm deffo opening here
    Posted by Lambert180
    well that helps me a bit maybe im folding too much
    thanks
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