Looking at both sides of the coin, 3 second 'shot clocks' would be totally unplayable for anyone multi-tabling.
But then for recs, which Sky (and most poker sites) are trying to attract and keep, that's probably a good table option - especially with the tablet/mobile app that lends itself to a hyper-turbo-speed cash game format.
Double bonus that (at all but higher stakes) it'll likely keep regs away (as they can't multi) and have the impact of creating rec-only games that should level the playing field, help newcomers lose slower, and potentially build a greater pool of recs as a result (good for all parties).
i have to say this is a pet hate of mine when people burn down their clocks, especially if they are acting first or no raises have been made. I would like to think this is because they are playing multi tables as that is understandable, but there may be a few who do this just because they can.
as for a three second clock suggested earlier tho...put yourself in the situation of a tournament and facing a big raise and I think even some of the more experienced players could struggle and be timed out on more than one occasion, let alone recreational and low stakes players like me.
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Or count to 8? Posted by hhyftrftdr
I replied to this post already, but here goes again....
When I ask a reasonable question, or put forward a reasoned suggestion, to be answered with insults is not 'clever'. All it does is reveal what the responder is, nothing else. If this is the type of person inhabiting this site and they allowed to comment disparagingly about anyone else then I will leave when/if my current stakeholding is ended.
Tikay - Take note of the people you are encouraging. I know the entire site and everything about it is geared to taking money from folk like myself, but this is just plain despicable behaviour.
Before you all start shouting about me 'Not being able to take a joke', then think carefully about what you say. I enjoy and encourage the friendly swapping of insults, but it is with friends and those who offered insults don't know me well enough to be my friends and so should know better. Clearly they do not.
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Sad that even here some folk feel the need to respond to a reasonable discussion with insults. Using insults tells us all about them but little else. If this is the level of people here then I will be leaving the site. Pathetic and ridiculous. Posted by ryfunere
Exactly where is the insult in the post of mine you have quoted?
I answered properly and succinctly earlier in the thread.
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : I replied to this post already, but here goes again.... When I ask a reasonable question, or put forward a reasoned suggestion, to be answered with insults is not 'clever'. All it does is reveal what the responder is, nothing else. If this is the type of person inhabiting this site and they allowed to comment disparagingly about anyone else then I will leave when/if my current stakeholding is ended. Tikay - Take note of the people you are encouraging. I know the entire site and everything about it is geared to taking money from folk like myself, but this is just plain despicable behaviour. Before you all start shouting about me 'Not being able to take a joke', then think carefully about what you say. I enjoy and encourage the friendly swapping of insults, but it is with friends and those who offered insults don't know me well enough to be my friends and so should know better. Clearly they do not. Posted by ryfunere
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Exactly where is the insult in the post of mine you have quoted? I answered properly and succinctly earlier in the thread. Three seconds is not long enough. End of story. Posted by Slipwater
Not from you Slipwater. your response was perfectly reasonable and I think I acknowledged this in my response to you at the time.
I actually don't mind the idea, if it was at just one or two clearly marked low stake cash tables. But how he is offended by what I put is beyond me, when it was clearly a dig at Slippy. An excellent dig, might I add. Posted by hhyftrftdr
You and Mr Wite implied I cannot count, when all I proposed was a reasoned idea for a faster clock on some tables and a comment that I dislike people who meaninglessly run down the clock. If you wish to ridicule people without knowing them well enough to do so, then you should expect a reaction and not go 'all innocent' when it comes.
Know that you have convinced a new member this site is not worth staying on.
Looking at both sides of the coin, 3 second 'shot clocks' would be totally unplayable for anyone multi-tabling. But then for recs, which Sky (and most poker sites) are trying to attract and keep, that's probably a good table option - especially with the tablet/mobile app that lends itself to a hyper-turbo-speed cash game format. Double bonus that (at all but higher stakes) it'll likely keep regs away (as they can't multi) and have the impact of creating rec-only games that should level the playing field, help newcomers lose slower, and potentially build a greater pool of recs as a result (good for all parties). Posted by shakinaces
Nicely reasoned Shakinaces and much better so than I did at the time. Thank you.
I don't think people have insulted you. They just don't believe that your idea is a good one. As was mentioned in a previous post, the more common complaint is that there isn't a time bank on Sky for when you have a tough decision. 15 seconds really isn't that long. Try counting it. If a player is using the full time allowed, it surely isn't that big a problem? Please don't try playing live. 1 hand can commonly take over 5 mins to play out Posted by Jac35
Whatever you think about my being insulted or not (though being told I can't count seems so to me), you may prefer to spend ages on a simple fold, check or bet decision but there are many more who prefer to play faster. If you prefer slow play, then offer an argument for long clock tables, just like I did for short clock tables. Otherwise your suggestion to play live may well suit you more than myself.
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : I replied to this post already, but here goes again.... When I ask a reasonable question, or put forward a reasoned suggestion, to be answered with insults is not 'clever'. All it does is reveal what the responder is, nothing else. If this is the type of person inhabiting this site and they allowed to comment disparagingly about anyone else then I will leave when/if my current stakeholding is ended. Tikay - Take note of the people you are encouraging. I know the entire site and everything about it is geared to taking money from folk like myself, but this is just plain despicable behaviour. Before you all start shouting about me 'Not being able to take a joke', then think carefully about what you say. I enjoy and encourage the friendly swapping of insults, but it is with friends and those who offered insults don't know me well enough to be my friends and so should know better. Clearly they do not. Posted by ryfunere
I'm afraid you've whooshed me there Ry, though I suppose thats not difficult.
I have responded ONCE on this thread, & it seemed to me to be polite, respectful, & well-reasoned. Not sure how or who I "encouraged".
Here is my Post, from Page 1 of the thread, unedited, & it it's entirety.....
".....Hi Ry, & that was your maiden post, so welcome to the Sky Poker Community.
Yes, it can be a little frustrating, especially if you are one-tabling, but there's nothing that can be done about it.
In fact, over the years, on this Community, I've seen, literally, hundreds of Posts arguing the opposite, that players should receive MORE thinking time, not less.
From the perspective of the Business, making LESS "thinking time" to act would be a big plus, as more hands would be played. But they can't, they have to allow time for a balanced range of needs. Reduce that time & there'd be a right hoohah, probably rightly so.
I'll be honest, I can no longer "one-table", as the action is not fast enough for me, I like to think & act fast when pokering. So my solution is to open more tables, so I always have action. Reduces variance, too. That does not mean investing more money, just spreading it around better.
Anyway, good luck at the tables....."
I'm sorry you feel you are being given a hard time by me & others, but this is a poker forum, & the way I read it, most of the replies are just regular, standard, poker forum banter. Honestly, they are just banter, & I think you have taken it wrong. Humour & the written word don't always come across as intended. Many of those who replied to you are generally exceedingly helpful, & are decent people. They are just having banter Ry, no more no less.
I've re-read my Post several times, & I can't see a thing wrong with it, to be honest, & I'd reply the same again today to the same question. My views expressed were my own, & I never "encouraged" anyone to write or say anything. I disagreed with your view, as it happens, but I did so politely & respectfully.
- Slippy said 'more than the 7 Women I've been with' or words to that effect.
- I replied saying it was a sick brag.
- tomgoodun suggests that Slippy may have had it away with a Thai ladyboy, and thus the real figure is 7.5.
- Mrwhite says that slippy said 'more than 7 as he can't spell 8'.
- I then said 'or count to 8?'
Not at any point were you involved in this bit of conversation. None of the above posts we're aimed or intended for you.
If anyone should be aggrieved, its Slipwater, as we suggested not only that he might have slept with a ladyboy, but also that he can't spell or count. Yet I don't hear him getting his knickers in a twist.
I would say 'please don't leave, it was just a misunderstanding' etc etc blah blah but to be honest I'm really not fussed either way. If you stay, good luck and run well, if you leave then good luck elsewhere.
can i just put in this point i think out of all the sites ive played on sky has the shortest time available to make your decision there is no countdown but it think its about 10 secs when most sites are 15 so the games move faster here than anywhere else that ive played
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : I'm afraid you've whooshed me there Ry, though I suppose thats not difficult. I have responded ONCE on this thread, & it seemed to me to be polite, respectful, & well-reasoned. Not sure how or who I "encouraged". Here is my Post, from Page 1 of the thread, unedited, & it it's entirety..... ".....Hi Ry, & that was your maiden post, so welcome to the Sky Poker Community. Yes, it can be a little frustrating, especially if you are one-tabling, but there's nothing that can be done about it. In fact, over the years, on this Community, I've seen, literally, hundreds of Posts arguing the opposite, that players should receive MORE thinking time, not less. From the perspective of the Business, making LESS "thinking time" to act would be a big plus, as more hands would be played. But they can't, they have to allow time for a balanced range of needs. Reduce that time & there'd be a right hoohah, probably rightly so. I'll be honest, I can no longer "one-table", as the action is not fast enough for me, I like to think & act fast when pokering. So my solution is to open more tables, so I always have action. Reduces variance, too. That does not mean investing more money, just spreading it around better. Anyway, good luck at the tables....." I'm sorry you feel you are being given a hard time by me & others, but this is a poker forum, & the way I read it, most of the replies are just regular, standard, poker forum banter. Honestly, they are just banter, & I think you have taken it wrong. Humour & the written word don't always come across as intended. Many of those who replied to you are generally exceedingly helpful, & are decent people. They are just having banter Ry, no more no less. I've re-read my Post several times, & I can't see a thing wrong with it, to be honest, & I'd reply the same again today to the same question. My views expressed were my own, & I never "encouraged" anyone to write or say anything. I disagreed with your view, as it happens, but I did so politely & respectfully. Posted by Tikay10
Tikay. Where on earth do you get the idea I found your comments wrong, insulting or disrespectful. My reply to your response must have conveyed my thoughts on your kind consideration in providing a reply.
As for it being 'banter'. Banter is like sex and is generally indulged in between consenting adults. I stated those who indulged in such banter toward me do not know me well enough to have that priveledge. I enjoy the swapping of banter, repartee and insults a-plenty with friends, but ONLY when the 'ground rules' are established and I am sure such talk will not offend. Those folk did not provide such courtesy.
I never insult anyone at the tables. I will offer praise for a good or well played hand and on occasion join in with good natured or informative chat, otherwise I will keep silent.
I believe in fair play and common courtesy. It dissapoints me you do not seem to agree. So, on that basis,
Right, gonna break this down for you ryfunere. - Slippy said 'more than the 7 Women I've been with' or words to that effect. - I replied saying it was a sick brag. - tomgoodun suggests that Slippy may have had it away with a Thai ladyboy, and thus the real figure is 7.5. - Mrwhite says that slippy said 'more than 7 as he can't spell 8'. - I then said 'or count to 8?' Not at any point were you involved in this bit of conversation. None of the above posts we're aimed or intended for you. If anyone should be aggrieved, its Slipwater, as we suggested not only that he might have slept with a ladyboy, but also that he can't spell or count. Yet I don't hear him getting his knickers in a twist. I would say 'please don't leave, it was just a misunderstanding' etc etc blah blah but to be honest I'm really not fussed either way. If you stay, good luck and run well, if you leave then good luck elsewhere. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Nice try, but why would you post such ramblings on a random thread. Nope, don't buy it.
In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Nice try, but why would you post such ramblings on a random thread. Nope, don't buy it. Posted by ryfunere
Wow...... It's pretty clear if you read back through the entire thread!
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Looking at both sides of the coin, 3 second 'shot clocks' would be totally unplayable for anyone multi-tabling.
But then for recs, which Sky (and most poker sites) are trying to attract and keep, that's probably a good table option - especially with the tablet/mobile app that lends itself to a hyper-turbo-speed cash game format.
Double bonus that (at all but higher stakes) it'll likely keep regs away (as they can't multi) and have the impact of creating rec-only games that should level the playing field, help newcomers lose slower, and potentially build a greater pool of recs as a result (good for all parties).
as for a three second clock suggested earlier tho...put yourself in the situation of a tournament and facing a big raise and I think even some of the more experienced players could struggle and be timed out on more than one occasion, let alone recreational and low stakes players like me.
I answered properly and succinctly earlier in the thread.
Three seconds is not long enough. End of story.
But how he is offended by what I put is beyond me, when it was clearly a dig at Slippy.
An excellent dig, might I add.
I have responded ONCE on this thread, & it seemed to me to be polite, respectful, & well-reasoned. Not sure how or who I "encouraged".
Here is my Post, from Page 1 of the thread, unedited, & it it's entirety.....
".....Hi Ry, & that was your maiden post, so welcome to the Sky Poker Community.
Yes, it can be a little frustrating, especially if you are one-tabling, but there's nothing that can be done about it.
In fact, over the years, on this Community, I've seen, literally, hundreds of Posts arguing the opposite, that players should receive MORE thinking time, not less.
From the perspective of the Business, making LESS "thinking time" to act would be a big plus, as more hands would be played. But they can't, they have to allow time for a balanced range of needs. Reduce that time & there'd be a right hoohah, probably rightly so.
I'll be honest, I can no longer "one-table", as the action is not fast enough for me, I like to think & act fast when pokering. So my solution is to open more tables, so I always have action. Reduces variance, too. That does not mean investing more money, just spreading it around better.
Anyway, good luck at the tables....."
I'm sorry you feel you are being given a hard time by me & others, but this is a poker forum, & the way I read it, most of the replies are just regular, standard, poker forum banter. Honestly, they are just banter, & I think you have taken it wrong. Humour & the written word don't always come across as intended. Many of those who replied to you are generally exceedingly helpful, & are decent people. They are just having banter Ry, no more no less.
I've re-read my Post several times, & I can't see a thing wrong with it, to be honest, & I'd reply the same again today to the same question. My views expressed were my own, & I never "encouraged" anyone to write or say anything. I disagreed with your view, as it happens, but I did so politely & respectfully.
- Slippy said 'more than the 7 Women I've been with' or words to that effect.
- I replied saying it was a sick brag.
- tomgoodun suggests that Slippy may have had it away with a Thai ladyboy, and thus the real figure is 7.5.
- Mrwhite says that slippy said 'more than 7 as he can't spell 8'.
- I then said 'or count to 8?'
Not at any point were you involved in this bit of conversation. None of the above posts we're aimed or intended for you.
If anyone should be aggrieved, its Slipwater, as we suggested not only that he might have slept with a ladyboy, but also that he can't spell or count. Yet I don't hear him getting his knickers in a twist.
I would say 'please don't leave, it was just a misunderstanding' etc etc blah blah but to be honest I'm really not fussed either way. If you stay, good luck and run well, if you leave then good luck elsewhere.
You're right - the OP has got the wrong end of the stick....
...and his three-second clock idea still sucks.
Good luck to you wherever you choose to make your 3 second decisions.