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21:30, £2000 BH

MilitantGMilitantG Member Posts: 204
edited December 2021 in Strategy
Quick background; this hand was played very early in the tournament, so I didn't have any real reads on the players (Probably my first mistake in the hand lol).

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
shirley02Small blind 10.0010.002050.00
666bumpyBig blind 20.0030.004280.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • Q
   
ziggy01Raise 40.0070.002870.00
Chops123Fold    
GEZZA79Fold    
MilitantGRaise 80.00150.001900.00
shirley02Call 70.00220.001980.00
666bumpyCall 60.00280.004220.00
ziggy01Call 40.00320.002830.00
Flop
  
  • 8
  • A
  • Q
   
shirley02Check    
666bumpyBet 60.00380.004160.00
ziggy01Call 60.00440.002770.00
MilitantGRaise 240.00680.001660.00
shirley02Call 240.00920.001740.00
666bumpyCall 180.001100.003980.00
ziggy01Fold    
Turn
  
  • 2
   
shirley02Check    
666bumpyCheck    
MilitantGBet 880.001980.00780.00
shirley02All-in 1740.003720.000.00
666bumpyFold    
MilitantGAll-in 780.004500.000.00
shirley02Unmatched bet 80.004420.0080.00
shirley02Show
  • 8
  • 8
   
MilitantGShow
  • A
  • Q
   
River
  
  • 5
   
shirley02WinThree 8s4420.00 4500.00
My thoughts are that I instantly regretted not re-raising more pre-flop. After that I put the other guys on flush draws/ace rag. And as you can see I couldn't get away from my hand.

All your thoughts and comments are very welcome.

Comments

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2014
    I prob don't 3b pre readless v an utg open, if I do 3 bet I make it 120

    Flop and turn are fine, although I might make flop a bit bigger.

    Not sure why you put villains solely on fds or Arag
  • Nuggy962Nuggy962 Member Posts: 1,104
    edited July 2014
    Hi

    Yeah agree 3 bet does achieve betting lead but thats about it. Way to small a 3 bet. When flop comes down, I think you uave played your hand face up and saying you have AK AQ type hand.

    You then have to think what they would call thay bet with. Once I get two calls on that flop after your agression I fall out of love with top top and now control pot to show down. When turn is an effective blank - I think your bet is forcing a fold out of the KJ or flush draws and also and Ax is folding there. 

    You now know if you get called / shoved on you are more than likely behind. I would be twmpted here to check behind or if have reads on a draw then vakue bet to say 400, weaker hands may call and gives you room to fold on a nasty river.

    So I would say yes pre 3bet too small

    Flop played very well, it told you what you needed to know

    Turn... left yourself no room to get away.

    Unlucky though, you had some outs which is always nice
  • MilitantGMilitantG Member Posts: 204
    edited July 2014
    Well like I said my main problem was not having an effective read on these guys, however I put them on flush draws and ace rag, as in my experience playing against randoms this is usually the range in a multiway especially in the 21:30 BH, where I dont find the competition to be particularly strong.

    In any case I thought two pair was good but looking back I should have considered the set mine in a multi-way pot.


  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited July 2014
    NH, well played.
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited July 2014
    Other than 3bet sizing hand is WP. unlucky sir!
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited July 2014
    I don't think you're getting away from this in an £11 BH.

    I wouldn't check the turn behind. There are a plethora of draws/worse hands that will call a bet. I'm not loving life if I'm check raised on the turn but doubt I'm passing anyway. You're basically only losing to 88.

    Sometimes they just have it.

    FWIW pre, think calling or 3betting is fine, but I'd 3bet a tad larger I think.
  • TENTENTENTENTENTEN Member Posts: 481
    edited July 2014
    unlucky outlaw don't think even you could get away from that one
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited July 2014
    Flopped top two pairs vs flopped set. It's a standard cooler. Unless you have a very good read on a very tight opponent you can wave goodbye to your stack..

    Consider it a lost flip. Stacks are nearly always going in on an action flop like this. The flip occured when you were the player dealt the cards that woud flop top two. The villain won it when he was dealt the pair that would flop a set.

    It's better to get things like this over and done with in level 1 rather than play a couple of hours and see it happen on the bubble.
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