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  • JuliusAAJuliusAA Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    Hi m8, i've been on a loosing streak for about 3 months, and know nothing goes your way, so while still in profit had a bit of time out. But still loged in a watched a few games low stakes, high stakes, bh, anything, and then on fri thought i would try again felt confident and finaly won a few hands, then 2 hours into the torni my internet went down, tilt time again. But at the back of my mind i knew it was turning, so on sat, entered another torni, finnshed 2nd made a mistake hu but hay no ones perfect. Have a break come back when you feel right, confidence is a big thing in poker. Good luck.
    Posted by tomo_efc
    Hey man thanks for your encouragment, i did take a break and came back with a fresh approach and came 19th in that 10k Bh the other day. would of won it but made a mistake and got punished haha. Good luck to you and thanks again.
  • JuliusAAJuliusAA Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    ok the hand example you posted with the qj leds me to think you are not a proftable player.... In future tournaments calculate you M which is Stack size diveded by (Big bling + small blind) in this exact examply your M is 7.77 whenever your M is below 10 you are in a shove / fold situation when you are at 5 your range needs to widen greatly & at 2 its any two will do time.
    Posted by Itsover4u
    OK cool, Thanks
  • JuliusAAJuliusAA Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    If we have the mindset that we are making no mistakes and its down to "these bad players" that we are not winning then its a massive flaw in our game and its an excuse about why we aren't winning! We cannot stop making opponents making bad calls. Now, lets think about that sentence, we DO NOT want to stop them making these calls. We want our opponents to make mistakes. If our opponent gets lucky then that's part of the game, we just need to put in enough volume for the variance to even out. Spend more time working on your game and working on how to get a big stack so that you can lose a flip or two and still be in the tournament and less on how your opponents are playing bad/getting lucky. There are a number of flaws in your logic regarding your exit hand. Posts hands in the clinic and people can help you.
    Posted by MattBates
    Yeah man, you are right in what your are saying. I just needed a break and to ride the storm of bad beats. Thanks for your post 
  • JuliusAAJuliusAA Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    "Bad players rewarded!!" Bit like some footballers ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    lol
  • HaemophileHaemophile Member Posts: 104
    edited August 2014
    hi new to the forums as never really been much of a chatty person but to put it into perspective i started on sky poker about 3 years ago now and im not much of a depositer and i dont win much either but i try to not let this bother me as that causes tilt but since i started playing poker i have gone round nearly all the ipoker sites microgaming sites pokerstars full tilt you name it if its well known ive played there and put little deposits on every site so i can honestly tell you that im sorry m8 its not skypoker this sort of thing happens on every online site and if given enough time (i think the ratio is 1:4 online hrs:casino hrs) you would see this happen live as well the main fact is that as a poker player you do have to accept these things and just move onto the next hand

    when i was just starting i was exactly the same and after 3 years of reading books watching videos and trolling through poker forums online im only about break even which isnt great but once again not that bothered as i love the game eventually it does turn round best of luck in the future
  • carducardu Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2014
    hi julius,
    i have to agree with you....i am a good player(not being bigheaded etc).
    ive been playing cards/poker for over 30 years...live and internet...
    also have had very good results in both except for sky....i win the odd tourny here and there mainly by playing the opposite of what i should lol.....my sharkscope is terrible...my win % flip ( aa v ??) etc is 3/10...
    if im all in i will be winning at the time...i understand my flopped nut straight will lose to runna runna flush sometimes which is ok...we all want those callers but its the callers again and again that call with 93os and flop trips etc..........i love playing on sky due to the uk side of it but i have never run so bad in the 4 or 5 years of playing on the site...wsop poker site is the same...i played a tourny on there awhile ago and folded all good hands aa/kk/qq/ak etc etc etc....some of the time i would of won but later in the tourny those hands would of lost big pots against hands that shoulf not even be in it....i won the tourny by playing things like 64,58,73 etc etc etc....its a computer program so it has bugs but i will beat it lol even if it takes another 4/5 years :)  gl on the tables all
  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker Member Posts: 2,715
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    hi julius, i have to agree with you....i am a good player(not being bigheaded etc). ive been playing cards/poker for over 30 years...live and internet... also have had very good results in both except for sky....i win the odd tourny here and there mainly by playing the opposite of what i should lol.....my sharkscope is terrible...my win % flip ( aa v ??) etc is 3/10... if im all in i will be winning at the time...i understand my flopped nut straight will lose to runna runna flush sometimes which is ok...we all want those callers but its the callers again and again that call with 93os and flop trips etc..........i love playing on sky due to the uk side of it but i have never run so bad in the 4 or 5 years of playing on the site...wsop poker site is the same...i played a tourny on there awhile ago and folded all good hands aa/kk/qq/ak etc etc etc....some of the time i would of won but later in the tourny those hands would of lost big pots against hands that shoulf not even be in it....i won the tourny by playing things like 64,58,73 etc etc etc....its a computer program so it has bugs but i will beat it lol even if it takes another 4/5 years :)  gl on the tables all
    Posted by cardu

    Hi Cardu - sorry, but this isnt correct.

    The Random Number Generator (RNG) that decides the cards is independently audited and verified. Therefore, to say there are 'bugs' would be incorrect.

    All it does is effectively generate cards, randomly.

    Thanks
    Sky Poker


  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    hi julius, i have to agree with you....i am a good player(not being bigheaded etc). ive been playing cards/poker for over 30 years...live and internet... also have had very good results in both except for sky....i win the odd tourny here and there mainly by playing the opposite of what i should lol.....my sharkscope is terrible...my win % flip ( aa v ??) etc is 3/10... if im all in i will be winning at the time...i understand my flopped nut straight will lose to runna runna flush sometimes which is ok...we all want those callers but its the callers again and again that call with 93os and flop trips etc..........i love playing on sky due to the uk side of it but i have never run so bad in the 4 or 5 years of playing on the site...wsop poker site is the same...i played a tourny on there awhile ago and folded all good hands aa/kk/qq/ak etc etc etc....some of the time i would of won but later in the tourny those hands would of lost big pots against hands that shoulf not even be in it....i won the tourny by playing things like 64,58,73 etc etc etc....its a computer program so it has bugs but i will beat it lol even if it takes another 4/5 years :)  gl on the tables all
    Posted by cardu
    So in summary you play great but its the different sites fault?
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    hi julius, i have to agree with you....i am a good player(not being bigheaded etc). ive been playing cards/poker for over 30 years...live and internet... also have had very good results in both except for sky....i win the odd tourny here and there mainly by playing the opposite of what i should lol.....my sharkscope is terrible...my win % flip ( aa v ??) etc is 3/10... if im all in i will be winning at the time...i understand my flopped nut straight will lose to runna runna flush sometimes which is ok...we all want those callers but its the callers again and again that call with 93os and flop trips etc..........i love playing on sky due to the uk side of it but i have never run so bad in the 4 or 5 years of playing on the site...wsop poker site is the same...i played a tourny on there awhile ago and folded all good hands aa/kk/qq/ak etc etc etc....some of the time i would of won but later in the tourny those hands would of lost big pots against hands that shoulf not even be in it....i won the tourny by playing things like 64,58,73 etc etc etc....its a computer program so it has bugs but i will beat it lol even if it takes another 4/5 years :)  gl on the tables all
    Posted by cardu

    Do you read the Daily Mail?
  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,185
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!! : Hi Cardu - sorry, but this isnt correct. The Random Number Generator (RNG) that decides the cards is independently audited and verified. Therefore, to say there are 'bugs' would be incorrect. All it does is effectively generate cards, randomly. Thanks Sky Poker
    Posted by Sky_Poker
    Also, I get the impression (from what I've picked up from this forum over many years) is people who are unfamiliar with computing, and especially computer programming, think that a poker card shuffling routine is a very sophisticated piece of software requiring immense programming skill and hardware processing power, when it's actually quite simple to code.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,662
    edited August 2014
    To be fair, I Googled MattBates once and his job was listed on LinkedIn as:

    Random Number Generator - (January 2007 - present) --

    -- so there may be some truth to the conspiracy.
  • HaemophileHaemophile Member Posts: 104
    edited August 2014

    i have a point here and its is that yes i have seen certain hands repeat and to add to the conspiracy (Mua ha ha ha) i always wondered if the hands were the same but we were just sitting at different seats to the perspective of the hand being dealt so we receive two different starting cards but the hand is actually the same

    have never noticed this on sky poker though it was on 888

    just another spanner for the conspiracy theorists in the forum lol

  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    hi julius, i have to agree with you....i am a good player(not being bigheaded etc). ive been playing cards/poker for over 30 years...live and internet... also have had very good results in both except for sky....i win the odd tourny here and there mainly by playing the opposite of what i should lol.....my sharkscope is terrible...my win % flip ( aa v ??) etc is 3/10... if im all in i will be winning at the time...i understand my flopped nut straight will lose to runna runna flush sometimes which is ok...we all want those callers but its the callers again and again that call with 93os and flop trips etc..........i love playing on sky due to the uk side of it but i have never run so bad in the 4 or 5 years of playing on the site...wsop poker site is the same...i played a tourny on there awhile ago and folded all good hands aa/kk/qq/ak etc etc etc....some of the time i would of won but later in the tourny those hands would of lost big pots against hands that shoulf not even be in it....i won the tourny by playing things like 64,58,73 etc etc etc....its a computer program so it has bugs but i will beat it lol even if it takes another 4/5 years :)  gl on the tables all
    Posted by cardu

    Great post.  HU4ROLLZ
  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,722
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Bad players rewarded!!:
    hi new to the forums as never really been much of a chatty person but to put it into perspective i started on sky poker about 3 years ago now and im not much of a depositer and i dont win much either but i try to not let this bother me as that causes tilt but since i started playing poker i have gone round nearly all the ipoker sites microgaming sites pokerstars full tilt you name it if its well known ive played there and put little deposits on every site so i can honestly tell you that im sorry m8 its not skypoker this sort of thing happens on every online site and if given enough time (i think the ratio is 1:4 online hrs:casino hrs) you would see this happen live as well the main fact is that as a poker player you do have to accept these things and just move onto the next hand when i was just starting i was exactly the same and after 3 years of reading books watching videos and trolling through poker forums online im only about break even which isnt great but once again not that bothered as i love the game eventually it does turn round best of luck in the future
    Posted by Haemophile
    Admire your honesty!
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