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PLO8 - playing AAAA

GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
edited December 2021 in Strategy
I'm so short stacked I assume this is an ok hand to shove pre.
And imagine my delight to see his hand!
is he priced in to make that call?
tiggertoo Small blind  200.00 200.00 3025.62
ABCBig blind  400.00 600.00 8323.14
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • 3
  • J
  • 7
     
F-B-I Fold     
GELDY All-in  1037.19 1637.19 0.00
tiggertoo Fold     
ABCCall  637.19 2274.38 7685.95
ABCShow
  • A
  • A
  • A
  • A
   
GELDY Show
  • J
  • 3
  • J
  • 7
   
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 5
  • 2
     
Turn
   
  • K
     
River
   
  • J
     
GELDY Win high Full House, Jacks and 2s 2274.38
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2014
    what's the question? :P
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,623
    edited August 2014


    Good Lord!

    I suppose for sheer comedy value, & if I had a ton of chips, I mght just make the call, but really, it's a shocker.

    Cannot win the low, needs to be quite lucky to win the high.
     
    For 2 Bigs? Yeah, I comedy call I suppose.
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: PLO8 - playing AAAA:
    Oh I see there's a question now!! :)
    Good Lord! I suppose for sheer comedy value, & if I had a ton of chips, I mght just make the call, but really, it's a shocker. Cannot win the low, needs to be quite lucky to win the high.   For 2 Bigs? Yeah, I comedy call I suppose.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Is it really a shocker? AAAA might be a terrible hand to see a flop with but it's all in equity is not so bad. In fact if Hero is shoving 20% of his hands here then:

    Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation ? 
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    HandEquityScoopsWins HiTies HiWins LoTies Lo
    AAAA45.96%237,610313,894000
    20%54.04%286,106286,1060169,6510
    46% equity is more than enough equity for it to be an easily correct mathematical call getting these odds. In fact the worst shape we could possibly be in is 36.78% equity - against 5678ds (it can win the low and has many chances to win the high without the A blocker) - an unusual situation where this bad PLO8 hand is actually in great shape!! :P
    But against nearly all of villains shoving range we are pretty much flipping in terms of equity. Folding would be a mathematical catastrophe barring ICM considerations! It'd be like folding AK in holdem knowing we are almost always in a race but getting insane odds.


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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2014
    Yeah I would have thought getting AAAA all in pre couldn't be that bad, given the low won't always play
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited August 2014
    He's got quad Aces, for goodness' sake!

    Bunch of nits thinking about folding.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,623
    edited August 2014


    lol, behave. Comedy job.

    :)
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited August 2014
    Thanks Ivan - that was very useful
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  • cenachavcenachav Member Posts: 2,682
    edited August 2014
    For 600 chips out of 8200 I think he's got to call with any 4 there.  Put it this way.  If you were one of the other players and saw the bb fold there would you be happy?
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