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Hypothetical hand....

hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
edited August 2014 in The Poker Clinic
Though it did kinda happen to me a while back! ;)

We raise 6h7h and flop the straight 5c 8d 9d vs 2 other players. First player open jams top set. 2nd player calls all in with Jd10d for the open ender and flush draw......action is on us with 2 all ins and the temporary nuts, but a hand that can't improve.

Question is, if we knew exactly what the other 2 have, is it a fold? 

Edit; both players also cover us, so for our tourney life.
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,599
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Hypothetical hand....:
    Though it did kinda happen to me a while back! ;) We raise 6h7h and flop the straight 5c 8d 9d vs 2 other players. First player open jams top set. 2nd player calls all in with Jd10d for the open ender and flush draw......action is on us with 2 all ins and the temporary nuts, but a hand that can't improve. Question is, if we knew exactly what the other 2 have, is it a fold? 
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Really?   Oh & def not a fold for me.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Hypothetical hand....:
    In Response to Hypothetical hand.... : Really?   Oh & def not a fold for me.
    Posted by Glenelg
    Yes, it can't improve ;) Whereas the other 2 hands are behind currently but between them have about 289 outs....
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,599
    edited August 2014
    Pretty sure a 10 & J improves it? 
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Hypothetical hand....:
    Pretty sure a 10 & J improves it? 
    Posted by Glenelg
    To a 7 card straight?

    Stop being a tw@t like me ;)
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,599
    edited August 2014
    I'm pretty sure a J high str is an IMPROVEMENT on a 9 high str?  BUT i'll bow to your superior knowledge. 
     BTW when are you off on your foriegn sojourn? Jealous is not the word!    GL
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  • clubhammerclubhammer Member Posts: 109
    edited August 2014
    Interesting hand & surprised to see that even 99 has better equity than the straight - so its an easy fold for me.

    Been in JT's situation loads of times on here and never achieved even a 10th of the results I should have !

    I'm sure it's rigged ; />0  !
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2014
    You never heard of pokerstove or PPT? :P

    Clear fold. In omaha you get these situations more frequently where you have the nuts but are an underdog!

    HandEquityWinsTies
    6h7h25.58%6930
    9933.44%9060
    JdTd40.97%1,1100

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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited August 2014
    Pokerstove? That where you cook your chips?
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  • HaemophileHaemophile Member Posts: 104
    edited August 2014
    this hand is not hypothetical i had this happen to me on 888 a while back i had a straight on the flop someone shoved with top set another called although he had nut flush draw not straight flush draw the turn gave 2nd player a flush and the river completed the boat for the original shover so save your money and fold anyway

    admittedly though this was a full ring tourney not 6 max but i can still see it happening in a 6 max game

    i also uploaded the hand to their hand history video thing that they had just started doing dont know if its still there
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