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DrRunGood
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what has happened to premium pairs everytime I get them I lose a buyin now no matter how I play them or how the board comes out. Its getting frustrating because when I end a session I realise that if ive lost I would be away up if the premium hand didn't get crushed as if it was 22 instead of kk or qq
is anyone else having the same problem because its been a drag for me now for over a month my biggest losing hand on sky poker is QQ and that is just crazy to think of because even playing silly it should be one of the most profitable hands
aboundSmall blind £1.50£1.50£295.50DrRunGoodBig blind £3.00£4.50£268.12 Your hole cardsKK fletch0909Raise £6.00£10.50£219.74russiaFold sikasFold aboundFold DrRunGoodRaise £15.00£25.50£253.12fletch0909Call £12.00£37.50£207.74Flop Q74 DrRunGoodBet £27.00£64.50£226.12fletch0909Call £27.00£91.50£180.74Turn 2 DrRunGoodBet £69.00£160.50£157.12fletch0909All-in £180.74£341.24£0.00DrRunGoodAll-in £157.12£498.36£0.00DrRunGoodUnmatched bet £45.38£452.98£45.38DrRunGoodShowKK fletch0909Show77 River A fletch0909WinThree 7s£451.18 £451.18
is anyone else having the same problem because its been a drag for me now for over a month my biggest losing hand on sky poker is QQ and that is just crazy to think of because even playing silly it should be one of the most profitable hands
aboundSmall blind £1.50£1.50£295.50DrRunGoodBig blind £3.00£4.50£268.12 Your hole cardsKK fletch0909Raise £6.00£10.50£219.74russiaFold sikasFold aboundFold DrRunGoodRaise £15.00£25.50£253.12fletch0909Call £12.00£37.50£207.74Flop Q74 DrRunGoodBet £27.00£64.50£226.12fletch0909Call £27.00£91.50£180.74Turn 2 DrRunGoodBet £69.00£160.50£157.12fletch0909All-in £180.74£341.24£0.00DrRunGoodAll-in £157.12£498.36£0.00DrRunGoodUnmatched bet £45.38£452.98£45.38DrRunGoodShowKK fletch0909Show77 River A fletch0909WinThree 7s£451.18 £451.18
Comments
what you need to have notes of is when what his hand strength is when doing a raise post flop because although overpairs look good they are only a fraction stronger than TPTK
If you opting to call a raise weather it be on the flop or the turn you need to be sure he makes a raise with hands that are either draws or TP because they are the ones you will not be loosing too, if he doesn't raise with them hands then it's best to just fold as you are beaten and really only have 2 outs to put you back in front guarentee to put you back in front
the best way to get an idea of there play is by playing your flush and straight draws aggressively on the flop and if they were to now raise you on the flop the straight flush draws and nut flush draws can be jammed as you have lots of outs still availible if he folds when you shipped it can give you signs of him holding top pair or a draw himself but if he calls you might be behind but you do have lots of outs and will see his hand.
on a micro stakes table they call things such as XsYs Kxo Axo 76o.... and a 3bet is still less that £1 which looks cheap in there view. , a MR20p/C90p with A3o followed by a cbet of £1.30 on Qc7s2d is still in there view a good price to call for one of those 3 aces. in there mind as long as they have got outs that can put them ahead weather it be runner runner or an over card they call.
hand selection on £1.50/£3 is probably much better, when he raised UTG the chances are he has got very good hand already his raise might be wider in the CO or on the button but we should be limiting it to things like 22+ AJo+ KQo+ K10s+ A8s+ j10s+. now you have made a 3bet in the SB so unless he were to have notes down stating you do this with weak pairs or weak ace and kings then he is already going to be folding alot of the lesser hands because whilst KQo AJo J10s all look good they going to either win small or loose big most days as the main hands they against are AA-1010 AQo+ AJs+.
the most likely range he will be on now is pocket paiirs AQ AK A10s+ KQs+ and this is where you post flop play comes in.
on micro stakes there might be lots of Ax and flush draws possible but the most likely hands he will call here are pocket pairs sets AQs AJs A10s and AK but that all comes down to how much of your range will be making a cbet.
if you want hands such as JJ and 1010 to call then he will need to be confident you would cbet AK and Ajs because they are the main hands he will beat.
if you want AK and KQ to be call you need a range like JJ 1010 to be included in them cbet.
but if your only going to be doing this sort of bet with over pairs and AQ then he will know for sure that you are ahead and as your putting so much in he can't attempt a bluff really as most will already have gone in which leaves you facing sets and flush draws.
that question is-
what hands does he think that i have?
Also, it looks like your sizing is pretty big so that you fold out the hands we beat and get in big pots where we aren't in great shape.
However, nobody from Sky Poker needs to justify anything - its how poker works, & why it is such a great game.
It's a little unreasonable, if I may say so, to suggest it is "borderline cheating". What exactly are you suggesting, & how would that work?
It's neither unrealistic or unbelievable. A deck of cards is a remarkable thing.
When we are having a bad run at the tables, its easy to point fingers at soft targets. Fact is, it happens, & we need to learn to live with the wonderful vagaries of variance.
I do hope your luck turns for the better, & very soon.
Repeat Matt's words, for emphasis.
This is on of the KEY criteria in poker, right up there with position & aggression.
"you fold out the hands we beat"
So you LOSE the customers you are beating but KEEP the hands that beat you.
I was at an SPT, & a chap moved ALL-IN with J-J very first hand (20,000 chips, slow clock). He got called & beaten by Aces.
I asked him why he had made such a massive overbet.
He replied "because I did not want a caller"
So what he did was "lost" anyone who had 10-10 down, & kept anyone who had K-K up.
Pretty daft, if you think about it!
i try to work out what mood the RNG is in and then play accordingly as it usually works on patterns like one day it'll be 70/30 in favor of premium hands and the next day could be 70/30 in favor of the lower suited cards
Hope your luck turns around soon