Small pocket pairs mid/late stages 15-25 bbs??

jordz16

Just after peoples opinions on how to play them really, under 10bbs, im happy to open shove any pair, 10-15 on the button/small blind/big blind then again im happy to shove pre,  and anything 25 bbs + im happy to min raise and probably fold to any reraise.... but I am never too sure what to do when i have 15-25 bbs so lately i have just started folding them pre, unless on the button when im happy to min raise..

just wondering if people think folding pairs pre in an unopened hand is a leak??

F_Ivanovic

As always with these types of questions: it depends! Not just on your chip stack but others at the table. Generally though I won't open HJ or UTG with small pairs. But if the table is playing really tight then I'll be opening HJ and UTG much more often with them.

bearlyther

In Response to Re: Small pocket pairs mid/late stages 15-25 bbs??:

As always with these types of questions: it depends! Not just on your chip stack but others at the table. Generally though I won't open HJ or UTG with small pairs. But if the table is playing really tight then I'll be opening HJ and UTG much more often with them.
Posted by F_Ivanovic

This loads of factors involved game flow plays a big part in it its hard to give a definate answer.

Matt237

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In Response to Re: Small pocket pairs mid/late stages 15-25 bbs?? : This loads of factors involved game flow plays a big part in it its hard to give a definate answer.
Posted by bearlyther

Put them on AK everytime and get the pairs in pre?

bearlyther

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In Response to Re: Small pocket pairs mid/late stages 15-25 bbs?? : Put them on AK everytime and get the pairs in pre?
Posted by Matt237

+1

Slipwater

I would generally not be shoving (for example) a pair of threes, in an unopened pot, with (for example) twenty-two bigs. It just feels a little too early to be going with it. A min-raise at that stage usually gives you the same answer.

benjiblue

15-25bb is tricky with pocket pairs espically because sky doesn't have antes in play.

Given all tables are 6 max though, I'd be happy min raising still because I've found all players on sky to be very passive in general. You can muck your really terrible hands like 22-44 UTG on these stack sizes but apart from that come in for a min raise. There is a huge difference between 15-25bb though.

Open shoving for 15bb with like 44+ from UTG+ is for sure profitable. Open shoving anything more though is becoming marginal, whilst it's still profitable to shove for example 25bb 33 UTG it's certainly not optimal by any means espically because there are never antes in play in skys tournaments.

F_Ivanovic

I don't know how you can think shoving 25bb's UTG with 33 can be profitable.

cowhead

Hi Jordz,  good question. Personally, for me it depends on the table dynamic. A decent amount of time I simply don't play them with a stack size of 15-25. Not sure if you've read them (and some say they're old and outdated) but one of the Harrington on Holdem has a section devoted to playing these size stacks. Might be worth a look if you gaven't already read them.

Gudge92

anything under 20 bigs with 8's or higher i think u need to shove. the amount of times u will take down the pot and take the small and big with a few limpers will be alot greater then the amount of times you will call. Like most of the other players have said table dynamics can also come into it