Heads Up S&GO thread.

The_Hux

I have had a look and cannot see a dedicated thread or forum section for S&GO HU.

If there is one and I have missed it feel free to delete this.

Do any of you play them regularly? If so what type? Regular? Turbo? Speed? Hyper? and what stakes.

I play £10.50 speed and regular. 

TeddyBloat

Used to play husngs here, only upto £5,  all speeds..

 

I wrote a (very) basic guide to some common spots in sub 25bb play, which you might find interesting, more geared to beginners though.

https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a2e4f51cb-c64c-449f-a843-8db9c5fe7283Forum%3a596e7081-fff1-4103-8428-5d4d19736b09Discussion%3a214221db-3b07-41df-a2b3-d909c6821814

Been following your diary, great results. Do you find playing husngs keeps your mtt game sharp? 

The_Hux

In Response to Re: Heads Up S&GO thread.:

Used to play husngs here, only upto £5,  all speeds..   I wrote a (very) basic guide to some common spots in sub 25bb play, which you might find interesting, more geared to beginners though. https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a2e4f51cb-c64c-449f-a843-8db9c5fe7283Forum%3a596e7081-fff1-4103-8428-5d4d19736b09Discussion%3a214221db-3b07-41df-a2b3-d909c6821814 Been following your diary, great results. Do you find playing husngs keeps your mtt game sharp? 
Posted by TeddyBloat

You are joking aren't you? That is brilliant! Thanks very much for pointing me to it. I will have a good read of it and use it for reference. When you said you used to play HU , Why did you stop?  

In answer to your question.. Yes I do feel playing HU helps my mtt game, although I know good players who tell me I should concentrate on one or the other. I think I factor in situations, reads, images- mine & oppos, more than most and that is probably as a result of my HU play. But on the minus side I probably lean on the above a little too much and sometimes try and get too tricky in spots and times in mtts where I have no need to. I sometimes dread to think how some of my hands would be judged when scrutinized by expert analysts, because looked at in isolation some of my plays seem ridiculous..and if I am being honest a lot of them are!! I crash out early in probably too many tournaments, but I think an unconventional style plays well against good players and there seems to be a fair few of them on here. But the very fact that so many of them are good means I will prob get tagged and will have to be aware of that.

Jeez, that was long winded. I bet you wished you had never asked now!

TeddyBloat

I play on another site now havent got a roll here atm

I find it hard to adjust to 6max play, either I play too loose ala my heads up game or consciously nit up and go the other way, rarely finding the right balance.  Also a lot of the assumptions and analysis that I use for heads up post flop ranges /  equities fall apart with 3 people in the pot! But I definately think it helps exploit players and spot tendencies.

Keep up the good work, innit.

GELDY

In Response to Re: Heads Up S&GO thread.:

I play on another site now havent got a roll here atm I find it hard to adjust to 6max play, either I play too loose ala my heads up game or consciously nit up and go the other way, rarely finding the right balance.  Also a lot of the assumptions and analysis that I use for heads up post flop ranges /  equities fall apart with 3 people in the pot! But I definately think it helps exploit players and spot tendencies. Keep up the good work, innit.
Posted by TeddyBloat

& i've given you a shout out on our team thread. a very well written guide indeed.

TeddyBloat

BOOM!

Well played, and thanks for the kind words.

POKERTREV

Hey Teddy
I was pointed in the direction of you S&G thread.....

It's quite a read - nice work m8

I will have to go through it a few more times but top work sir

TeddyBloat

thanking you, skip.

seeing as this serves as the one and only HUSNG thread, i may as well share this here.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrgxn3o7x01oco4/HH%20HU%20POT%20MATHS.xlsx?dl=0

the above link will hopefully allow you to download a spreadsheet i made in google's spreadsheet. it's the first time i have ever worked with a spreadsheet and i have zero excel experience so it might be best uploading it to google.docs as i dunno if it will work in excel.

anyways, i've been using it to review hands. enter the effective starting stack at the beginning of hand, the size of pot pre and size of bet on flop and it will do some nifty number crunching. it will tell us:

- equity needed to call bet

- pure fold equity for bet to break even v folding

- effective stacks and size of pot when bet is called

- equity needed to call open jam on next street

it will also calculate standard 2bet / x/r sizes, again showing us pure fold equity required to break even, pot equity offered, eff stack size and pot size after call and equity need to call jam on next street.

you can also enter in your own 2bet size.

the same is repeated for the turn.

on the river it allows you to enter in your own river bet size and it will automatically caluclate the equities facing a river jam.


i've found it useful to quickly grab the equities when reviewing hands.

like i say it mayt work in excel but importing it to googles spreadsheet might be best as that's where i made the thing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrgxn3o7x01oco4/HH%20HU%20POT%20MATHS.xlsx?dl=0

TeddyBloat

Oh, and its useful for planning a hand as you can see the effect different bet sizing has on later street stack and pot sizes

HENDRIK62

Thanks a lot for this, I can confirm it will work in excel, it comes as an xlxs file (may not work with some older excel users (the programme not the people...lol)

Neil