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42K chips in super roller things looking great then all gets lost with these
craigcu12
Member Posts: 3,962
the player on the button does like to steel blind and will have cbets in his actions too. AK and AQ are going to be 3 bet any day of the week, if i amm going to defend my blinds i need to 3bet sometime but what i'm concerned about is i'll be out of position and might be making those weak aces fold when a raise is made.
The player in the big blind is still new to the table so not much is known about him but i've managed to steel blinds when i'm sitting on the button and he is in the SB, so i wouldn't say he is too loose.
Having seen him call 77 i'm thinking surely my 3bet is too weak, as i don't want to get myself in the spot where it's likely to be AK AQ and pairs that are called by him on the button should i be calling this hand preflop?
The player in the big blind is still new to the table so not much is known about him but i've managed to steel blinds when i'm sitting on the button and he is in the SB, so i wouldn't say he is too loose.
Having seen him call 77 i'm thinking surely my 3bet is too weak, as i don't want to get myself in the spot where it's likely to be AK AQ and pairs that are called by him on the button should i be calling this hand preflop?
| craigcu12 | Small blind | 400.00 | 400.00 | 32635.50 | |
| KINGCANUTE | Big blind | 800.00 | 1200.00 | 16005.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| RH0258 | Fold | ||||
| limper | Fold | ||||
| madeyeII | Fold | ||||
| KMM7 | Raise | 1600.00 | 2800.00 | 48618.50 | |
| craigcu12 | Raise | 2800.00 | 5600.00 | 29835.50 | |
| KINGCANUTE | Call | 2400.00 | 8000.00 | 13605.00 | |
| KMM7 | Call | 1600.00 | 9600.00 | 47018.50 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| craigcu12 | Check | ||||
| KINGCANUTE | Bet | 4800.00 | 14400.00 | 8805.00 | |
| KMM7 | Fold | ||||
| craigcu12 | Call | 4800.00 | 19200.00 | 25035.50 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| craigcu12 | All-in | 25035.50 | 44235.50 | 0.00 | |
| KINGCANUTE | All-in | 8805.00 | 53040.50 | 0.00 | |
| craigcu12 | Unmatched bet | 16230.50 | 36810.00 | 16230.50 | |
| craigcu12 | Show |
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| KINGCANUTE | Show |
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| River | |||||
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| KINGCANUTE | Win | Three 7s | 36810.00 | 36810.00 | |
Comments
As played I don't like the donk shove on turn. Why did you do it? Can you get called by worse? What better hands fold? etc
He doesn't seem to be as loose as most recs especially not post flop, the best sign came when he had raised AK, flop came 8d4d4x SB donked 750 into a pot of 1500 his stack was 9460 at the time and te blinds were 50/100. Normally most loose player will call atleast one donk bet but he manages to fold so i'm thinking although he's looser than a reg he's tighter that most recs especially post flop.
when limping his range of hands seem to be Ax Kx but not 83s 64s 87o, he didn't call his AK on the board 844 so i'm thinking he'll give up easy most times.
whilst i was playing i didn't know he was mainly AxKx i did know he folded frquently on the low and middle flops, something alot of recs don't do.
was my bet size pre too big or should i be giving up on these flop
having called a 3bet in the BB with a open raise still to act, his bet on this flop i'm sure would have hit. if i were to have Ch i'm sure that i'd have called a shove because his stack was much smaller than that of him on the button plus if the button did hit the board either as flush draw or set he'll have shipped it on flop.
it does now beg the question should i have just folded the flop?
Should you have cbet? I can see an argument for or against (as have other posters). You should either be mixing these up or always cbetting to avoid giving off reads. Trouble is you need to make it a hefty one to see off drawing hands and there are plenty of pair+draw or set hands that are not going away even then, also quite likely that you could be shoved on with a wide variety of hands.
You have chips and time to find much better positions than a 2 overcards AJo oop on a wet board with 2 opponents.
check/fold is fine imo - you have no reason to doubt the strength of the bet.
I think the turn shove was the biggest leak in the hand but from your later posts, the post hand tilt was the biggest leak overall.
This was for 1st with 30 left, itll put things in perspective for you
Hand History #822035035 (00:43 29/09/2014)
Hand 2 - Fine
Hand 3 - Raise smaller pre, bet smaller on the flop, give up on the turn.
all i can say about your hand is i wish it was always as simple as going all in preflop because that way it's just a simple win loss.
basically it's a questioning weather i'm being too aggressive and over bluffing.
in hand a u build the pot hoping too hit!
in hand b u build the pot hoping too hit!!
in hand c u build the pot hoping too hit!!!
When we think we are the best we are not usually!
And here is a proper beat instead of aj running into 77! now i wonder should i start a thread asking if i should fold pre?
yeah my aa all in is a easy call and easier too play but so is laying down air and draws its just the knowing when too do it! thats the hard part.
i might feel annoyed that the flush and straights didn't come but the talking point is based on my aggression and bluffs, especially against fish weak passive and calling stations.
as we can see everyone questions my way of playing AJ on that flop i didn't cbet so must be acting scared, why continue? I should have just give up the AJ on the flop
as for the KQ well i already knew he had managed to give up an AK on 484 so surely he was a bit tight with his calling range post flop, in other words he has hit this one, so instead of doing the bet on turn it should have just been Ch like i played J10.
my aim was not to build the pot, it was attempts to bluff but i should be accepting defeat more often because these aren''t the aggressive tommyD or mattbates, these are passive recs.
in hand 1 and 3 i'm acting like a feeding station because i know they hit the flop on both occasions so why continue when it's just giving more chips to him.
you hand is just a limped ace that has lost to 55.
just my opinion is that not why he has posted it here? and as craig says himself he is just feeding them when he knows he is behind!
Another point as well your calling people " fish weak passive and calling stations." is that not what you where in 1 of those hands?