Is there not away though players can aquire points after certain times. Too qualify for diffrent freerolls. Surely the site is at its peak after 6. Or with daily points aquired you could earn a freeroll ticket too use whenever u want when your available? Posted by Chris_Mc
Hi Chris,
Well like most poker sites, & all UK/RIO facing ones especially, the busiest times are in the evening, yes.
So perhaps Sky Poker are deliberately promoting the Freerolls to help to stimulate demand when the site is less busy, in the afternoons?
That would seem, to me, a perfectly logical business model, no matter how unfortunate it is on those who cannot access the site earlier.
As it is a Freeroll, I think they should be able to give away their money in a way that best suits the business, don't you?
I understand 100% that sky has too promote throughout the quieter periods. But possibly there could be away around for the evning plauers aswell. possibly the same schedule of freerolls in the evening as during the day starting from 7pm but you can only play them once If you play the freeroll in the day you will not be eligible for the evening one. Meaning all who qualify can play at times suited. Posted by Chris_Mc
Yes, possibly.
I think, though, as with all these things, that you have to start with the premise that they cannot please all of the people all of the time. It's just not possible!
I am not sure trying to promote afternoon traffic this way is a good idea. As has been commented most people play in the evening, because work commitment stops them playing during the day. This means a number can no longer play the freeroll. Whereas a larger stake player might be able to get there points in a short time, a low stake cash player will have no chance in an hour or so to do it. Though we talk glibly here about making 100 points a day, in reality some of the lower stake players are struggling to make even the 10 points needed for entry to the freeroll. So if their evening play does not count they cannot make the freeroll now and will no longer put in that bit of extra effort required to reach the target.
I am not sure trying to promote afternoon traffic this way is a good idea. As has been commented most people play in the evening, because work commitment stops them playing during the day. This means a number can no longer play the freeroll. Whereas a larger stake player might be able to get there points in a short time, a low stake cash player will have no chance in an hour or so to do it. Though we talk glibly here about making 100 points a day, in reality some of the lower stake players are struggling to make even the 10 points needed for entry to the freeroll. So if their evening play does not count they cannot make the freeroll now and will no longer put in that bit of extra effort required to reach the target. Posted by Sir-Gary
Well we don't know that IS the reason, or part of it, I just suggested it may be, in reply to the notion that it is "ridiculous".
The guys at Head Office are not daft, & they have access to squillions of gigalometres of data, daily, & when they do something which, to us, as players, looks odd, we should not auto assume the Suits are daft.
They have all the Data, & they will do things for a reason. We don't know that reason, but as sure as God made little apples, there will be some sound logic behind it. The site is doing VERY well right now. That's not an accident, it is because they are tweaking the right things.
One of the effects of this temporary change to Frererols is that it makes it more accessible to those who usually cannot play them, & less accessible to those who play them all, so it is spreading the cash around to a different subset of players. That has to be good, I would have thought.
I know some folks are upset that they have temporarily lost "their" Freerolls, but I do strongly believe that if a Business chooses to give away money (for business reasons, not because they are nice people) they should be able to give it away in a manner that best suits them.
I know some folks are upset that they have temporarily lost "their" Freerolls, but I do strongly believe that if a Business chooses to give away money (for business reasons, not because they are nice people) they should be able to give it away in a manner that best suits them. Posted by Tikay10
It's pretty hard for anyone to (legitimately) argue against that.
The freerolls on Sky are far better as well, as opposed to some on other sites where you face 5,000+ fields and have to play for 4+ hours in order to bink $0.04. In fact, maybe I'm naive to what else is out there these days, but the total basket of bonuses available to recs seems far better on Sky (even if that may be at the expense of what is offered to regs).
I suppose the only query is that if the hypothesis is true about focusing on people gambling during the early afternoon... is that not targeting a skew towards people who are unemployed... which isn't necessarily aligned to 'responsible gambling'?
Thanks for the replies guys, and not bad I only had one person bashing my opinion! lol
In general I see it doesnt suit most as I expected.
Appreciate the reply Tikay and yes of course Im sure Sky have a good reason to do what they are doing. Im simply giving Sky my feedback on how I feel about it which is important to.
I have reduced my evening play on Sky now as I have less incentive to earn pts as they mean nothing now and I play on a few sites as opposed to just Sky in the evenings. Again just feedback Sky might be interested to hear from its customers.
I will clarify personally however I still feel Sky is the no 1 site for poker.
One of the effects of this temporary change to Frererols is that it makes it more accessible to those who usually cannot play them, & less accessible to those who play them all, so it is spreading the cash around to a different subset of players. That has to be good, I would have thought.
Not sure i understand the logic in that though tikay? The last 24 hours covered midday to the tourney start time so players earning pts from midday would have qualified under both timeframes.
Anyhow Im still a happy customer and Im sure it will change from time to time.
it doesn't even try and cater for all its players.
all it does is say is 'we don't care about our loyal players that play night after night'.
and it doesn't make it more accessible for more, it just makes it less accessible to most.
these forums have a very loyal following, but I know of more and more people who play just the minimum. me included. I am just using up the 4k points I have and playing the minimum needed to access the freerolls needed, whilst using another site as my main one
I see the 2 freerolls at 4 & 5pm today are no points to play but you must have a balance of over £5 to play, not seen that before, seems like a good idea to me.
Why a balance though? It is a freeroll after all. Posted by Chris_Mc
apparently some peeps only come here to scalp our freerolls. Having a balance requirement would seem a smart way to restrict the goodies to peeps willing to put their hand in their pocket. It's not exactly a lot £5 is it.
In Response to Re: Sky Freerolls Feedback : apparently some peeps only come here to scalp our freerolls. Having a balance requirement would seem a smart way to restrict the goodies to peeps willing to put their hand in their pocket. It's not exactly a lot £5 is it. Posted by GELDY
Not now, indeed. It was my weekly wage in 1985 when I got 'the big round' at my local newsagent. Hated Sundays mind...
In Response to Re: Sky Freerolls Feedback : Not now, indeed. It was my weekly wage in 1985 when I got 'the big round' at my local newsagent. Hated Sundays mind... Posted by NoseyBonk
It's also what Elsa, the local lady of the night, charges for manual relief in the back of a Ford Cortina.
In Response to Re: Sky Freerolls Feedback : It's also what Elsa, the local lady of the night, charges for manual relief in the back of a Ford Cortina. Ah, memories... Posted by Slipwater
Having played in a few of the freerolls recently offering up juicy seats into UKOPS and ROLLER qrts and semis, I have to say I have seen a marked difference in play, I normally hate freerolls, but apart from some early shenanigans the play has been much more akin to 'serious' sats and much more enjoyable.
Not sure if this backs up what IDONKCALLU alluded to or not, but it may.....
Though this is speculation only on my part as they have not given a reason for doing it. One of the possible explainations hinted at was trying to promote afternoon traffic, an understandable reason in itself athough it is not gauranteed to be the reason. I saw a couple of posts which gave me an idea of a possible link between the two comments and of a possible explaination. Most sites if not all run freerolls in some guise or other as it is good publicity, and not to do so would leave you behind the competition. On one of the posts in question it was mentioned that on some sites you could be facing a field of 5000+ and playing for 4 hours to win 0.04c. This is trus I have won that kind of money before. On another postsomeone quieried the point of making it 12-00 onwards as opposed to 24 hours as that does not help those that play then, but only stops the evening players being able to play. I would like to point out that in effect excluding some players, makes the field smaller and therefore the freeroll more attractive to play in, thus making it more attractive to play in the afternoon. I can't help but feel though that there will be a corresponding negative effect on the evening players who struggled to make the points required before the change.
But it will probably change, either back to what it was before, or to another different criteria, in the near future. I don't think directing the freerolls to different groups of players over time is a bad thing.
I don't play many fr and have hundreds of points just sitting there, but there is no way i would go out my way just to earn enough points to play a fr. If you don't play a certain time and don't earn enough points you can't play fr, there's more to life.
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Well like most poker sites, & all UK/RIO facing ones especially, the busiest times are in the evening, yes.
So perhaps Sky Poker are deliberately promoting the Freerolls to help to stimulate demand when the site is less busy, in the afternoons?
That would seem, to me, a perfectly logical business model, no matter how unfortunate it is on those who cannot access the site earlier.
As it is a Freeroll, I think they should be able to give away their money in a way that best suits the business, don't you?
I think, though, as with all these things, that you have to start with the premise that they cannot please all of the people all of the time. It's just not possible!
The guys at Head Office are not daft, & they have access to squillions of gigalometres of data, daily, & when they do something which, to us, as players, looks odd, we should not auto assume the Suits are daft.
They have all the Data, & they will do things for a reason. We don't know that reason, but as sure as God made little apples, there will be some sound logic behind it. The site is doing VERY well right now. That's not an accident, it is because they are tweaking the right things.
One of the effects of this temporary change to Frererols is that it makes it more accessible to those who usually cannot play them, & less accessible to those who play them all, so it is spreading the cash around to a different subset of players. That has to be good, I would have thought.
I know some folks are upset that they have temporarily lost "their" Freerolls, but I do strongly believe that if a Business chooses to give away money (for business reasons, not because they are nice people) they should be able to give it away in a manner that best suits them.
The freerolls on Sky are far better as well, as opposed to some on other sites where you face 5,000+ fields and have to play for 4+ hours in order to bink $0.04. In fact, maybe I'm naive to what else is out there these days, but the total basket of bonuses available to recs seems far better on Sky (even if that may be at the expense of what is offered to regs).
I suppose the only query is that if the hypothesis is true about focusing on people gambling during the early afternoon... is that not targeting a skew towards people who are unemployed... which isn't necessarily aligned to 'responsible gambling'?
all it does is say is 'we don't care about our loyal players that play night after night'.
and it doesn't make it more accessible for more, it just makes it less accessible to most.
these forums have a very loyal following, but I know of more and more people who play just the minimum. me included. I am just using up the 4k points I have and playing the minimum needed to access the freerolls needed, whilst using another site as my main one
Ah, memories...