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fold river...? not sure where I am!

mrdaviesmrdavies Member Posts: 475
edited November 2014 in The Poker Clinic
willie3777Small blind £0.10£0.10£16.37mrdaviesBig blind £0.20£0.30£71.81Corps86Big blind £0.20£0.50£10.30 Your hole cards87   Ledge33Fold    oarsman24Call £0.20£0.70£61.68Corps86Raise £0.20£0.90£10.10V1seuRaise £1.70£2.60£39.14willie3777Fold    mrdaviesCall £1.50£4.10£70.31oarsman24Call £1.50£5.60£60.18Corps86Call £1.30£6.90£8.80Flop  789   mrdaviesCheck    oarsman24Check    Corps86Check    V1seuBet £5.18£12.08£33.96mrdaviesCall £5.18£17.26£65.13oarsman24Call £5.18£22.44£55.00Corps86Fold    Turn  K   mrdaviesCheck    oarsman24Check    V1seuCheck    River  5   mrdaviesCheck    oarsman24Bet £11.22£33.66£43.78                              

Comments

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2014
    Think I'd just c/r the flop and be happy about getting it in.

    Unless he's a nutter, his sizing pre makes it vv likely he has a vv strong hand preflop and none of those hands will be ahead of us on the flop, but they probably will GII on the flop hoping we have a draw.

    As played, I call river. We can reasonably only expect to be beat by KK that he's decided to slowplay on the turn.

    How often is he gonna raise nearly 10x pre with a 6 in his hand or JT? Close to never I'd say. I'd say it's also close to never he has 55/99/77/88 (especially the last 2 as we have blockers), so just a slowplayed KK on the turn is our most likely threat.

    Think it's an easy river call, if not maybe even a value jam, and hope he can't fold AA/AK. I'd have tried to GII on the flop though.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2014
    Eh Lambert? It's the limper who is leading on the river.

    I think there are some 6's in limpers range but I'd probably look him up on the river. Close though.

    Deffo raise that flop and look to play for a big pot.
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited November 2014
    What's wrong with leading the flop? 

    Snap calling river though
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November 2014
    Raising flop to get in would be pretty awful. You realise we have bottom 2 on 789ssx in a 4way pot right? Raising would be nothing short of a disaster. Leading flop works well 4-way to protect our equity and get thin value. Notice THIN - and that's leading. Raising is just like, gg money. Wow, just noticed you want to get it in with like 180xbb eff!!!! crazy??????????

    mehhhhhhhhh rivs. I probably call because I'm a station and 3/1 is nice, but the reality of things is I don't think he's turning showdown value into a bluff and I think he's semi-bluffing his draws on the turn meaning he shouldn't get to the river with many bluffs with this line. I think we sigh and fold although I'm perfectly fine with calling too. Noticed it's the limper who bet which makes me much more inclined to call because he can have more missed draws
  • mrdaviesmrdavies Member Posts: 475
    edited November 2014
    Thanks for posts..I folded river - I know i havent given any reads but the guy was VERY tight..showdowns were always huge and under represented! So Lambert so I didnt give you all the info.

    Just seems like he wants to get a call out of my type of hand so I gave him a 10J at best!
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