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perhaps its obvious but bear with me
HENDRIK62
Member Posts: 3,202
| a | Small blind | 40.00 | 40.00 | 8850.00 | |
| b | Big blind | 80.00 | 120.00 | 3650.00 | |
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| HENDRIK62 | Raise | 160.00 | 280.00 | 11627.50 | |
| a | Call | 120.00 | 400.00 | 8730.00 | |
| b | Raise | 560.00 | 960.00 | 3090.00 | |
| HENDRIK62 | Raise | 960.00 | 1920.00 | 10667.50 | |
| a | Call | 960.00 | 2880.00 | 7770.00 | |
| b | All-in | 3090.00 | 5970.00 | 0.00 | |
| HENDRIK62 | All-in | 10667.50 | 16637.50 | 0.00 | |
| a | All-in | 7770.00 | 24407.50 | 0.00 | |
| HENDRIK62 | Unmatched bet | 2897.50 | 21510.00 | 2897.50 | |
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| a | Win | Two Pairs, Jacks and 7s | 21510.00 | 21510.00 | |
Would anyone ever recommend simply calling the short stacks raise, and then pushing the SB (a) into a decision on the flop, given that he has invested half his chips can he fold (do I want him to?)?
Or is it simply too dangerous and open to exploitation allowing someone to see a flop and potentially picking up a draw, or does it potentially keep some weaker speculative hands in for extra value if they do catch a small piece of the flop (I realise that it is dangerous as only strongish hands can call such a raise)
In this instance its just a bad run out, but I have seen this kind of action result in people being forced in pre, who would never be able to continue on a dry flop had they been given the oportunity to then fold out (ie not forced AIP).
I think in the long term isolating is the way to play it, but couldn't help thinking about other options.....thought please?
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Was this a bounty hunter tourni (only way I can see J7s coming along for the ride... not a great play like, but may have seen it as value if the shorty had a big wedge on their head)?
If you think you can induce something from either then I think the click back is ok. Looks like you might be p1ss1ing around a bit in position too.
My only question (although it doesn't have TOO much of a bearing.) Is it a bounty hunter?
With regards to just calling the 3bet. I've seen pros do it, not that it makes it right!! lol
I suppose the things to consider are: if the flop comes the same, quite dry but with the flush draw, how difficult is your decision if you are bet into/shoved on? On this flop you might think AQ AJ QJ clubs would shove, any A10 QQ JJ and possible sets. Player "a" seems like a maniac (unless REALLY short). Just smooth calling means you have under-repped your hand so you could induce from 77 88 99.
Whilst I wouldn't do it often, I think to balance your range, trap people calling the 3bet is a good play, especially against an agro player. You would probably get max value. HU would obviously be safer, the 3 way aspect makes it a bit trickier but I still think you could justify it.
At the end of the day, if we all play "standard" poker we would be too predictable.
It would be pretty loose if player A then comes along for the ride but so be it, I'm still happy to roll with it.