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Please settle a disagreement for me!!
pacificjoe
Member Posts: 23
lovejunky and I were discussing a hand on top of the pots where rosiedog had aj on a kq5 flop the opponent led out and rosiedog called. The turn is a two and insignificant and the opponent leads out for 800 pounds to which rosie dog calls. The river is a 10 making the nuts for rosiedog.
Now I said it was an expensive float to get to the river and lovejunky said that's not the definition of a float.
he said a float would be if he had called with a hand like 45 suited and planned to take it away on a later street
please would you give your opinions
Now I said it was an expensive float to get to the river and lovejunky said that's not the definition of a float.
he said a float would be if he had called with a hand like 45 suited and planned to take it away on a later street
please would you give your opinions
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Lovejunky is correct-a float is where you call intending to bluff bet or raise on a later street....
thanks for your input phil
The problems with pure floating is that you can essentially do so with any hand, and if you have no way of distinguising which hands to float and when then you could find yourself floating far too much. As such, a good player is going to try and exploit this (either by 2 barreling more often or by check/raising you on the turn for example) If we float with hand that have at least some equity (bottom pair, gutshots, overcards to board) instead of floating with 56 on a KQ8 board then we're generally going to be doing better off. We'll get more respect when we bet OTT because we aren't just floating with anything on the flop.
On a KQ4 board (can't recall turn, it was blank?) AJ might be ahead on the flop and can't be classed as a float but is probably not ahead by the turn. Villain could be bluffing with better hands as well as value betting thinly. We clearly don't have the odds to call for the gutshot (nor the odds to call against villains range - since even tho they could be bluffing with a worse hand some % it's not enough to make the call profitable. So we're floating here hoping to take the hand away on the river. But it's nice that we can hit the nuts too.