So sky poker is going to have someone cheating in a£1 game,they are going to risk a multi billion business for a£1 game of poker, this the reason this section needs to stay jac,
I need to keep reading about the downfall of the sky network because of £1
My Q6 would have won in none fixed poker, it only lost to one hand it could with a fake flop Same player who's just been on my table again and smashed it again with silly hands again U been warned, who regulates this? I got it on tape plus the last hand AJ lost to 8-3 to same player.... It is not normal poker, I want my £1 back Posted by lufcWacker
This has to be the best quote of all. it only lost to 1 hand.
With the board as you describe it i think you will find that it loses to 13 different Jx hands, 12 different Tx hands AA and Kx hearts. So it was only actually losing to 27 completely different hands.
So the post should really read oh no i had the 28th nuts and i lost how unlucky am i
In Response to Re: Fixed? who regulates sky poker? : This has to be the best quote of all. it only lost to 1 hand. With the board as you describe it i think you will find that it loses to 13 different Jx hands, 12 different Tx hands AA and Kx hearts. So it was only actually losing to 27 completely different hands. So the post should really read oh no i had the 28th nuts and i lost how unlucky am i Posted by Talon
One of the Jx and one of the Tx hands i mentioned include the quads. Most people dont think of quads too much really But as exponents of the 4 card game we see them a lot more Posted by Talon
Ahh, gotcha.
If I were King for a Day......
I'd make every NLH player play PLO or PLO8 for a month BEFORE they play NLH. That would help them so much to understand the wonders of poker & the outdraws possible.
As you know, in PLO, we can flop the stone cold nuts, & have to fold. Fold the flopped nuts! It's quite usual & normal.
Phil Hellmuth wrote a story once where he held the absolute nuts on the turn in PLO, but COULD NOT POSSIBLY win the hand - every card in the deck beat him on the river.
And if were playing PLO & had the 27th nuts, we'd be nuts to invest another chip.
Not an easy task to explain to nlhe players. Hard enough to explain folding the nuts on the flop. But then try explaining how folding AAxx preflop is a correct decision some times Posted by Talon
Ha!
Very true.
If I play 20 PLO8 DYM's in an evening, I can guarantee I'll fold A-A-x-x pre-flop at least 3 times.
As you say, a difficult concept for NLH players to grasp.
But it puts in context the Opening Post. He lost a perfectly standard hand, not even a bad beat, so he decides to say that the site is "bent". I wonder what he'd say if Sky Poker suggested (hypothetically) he was a cheat? He'd be livid, & quite right too. But he can say Sky Poker is not legit, his evidence being he lost whilst holding the 27th nuts.
In Response to Re: Fixed? who regulates sky poker? : Ahh, gotcha. If I were King for a Day...... I'd make every NLH player play PLO or PLO8 for a month BEFORE they play NLH. That would help them so much to understand the wonders of poker & the outdraws possible. As you know, in PLO, we can flop the stone cold nuts, & have to fold. Fold the flopped nuts! It's quite usual & normal. Phil Hellmuth wrote a story once where he held the absolute nuts on the turn in PLO, but COULD NOT POSSIBLY win the hand - every card in the deck beat him on the river. And if were playing PLO & had the 27th nuts, we'd be nuts to invest another chip. Posted by Tikay10
I would love to see this, I presume it was just as a story he made up to show how brilliant he is rather than actually true!
I was smashing the table up to that point chip leader them boom fix out, then 8-3 beat aj to same player And same player on my next table and same thing happened to other players with more fake hands Posted by lufcWacker
In Response to Re: Fixed? who regulates sky poker? : I would love to see this, I presume it was just as a story he made up to show how brilliant he is rather than actually true! Posted by Enut
The story is true, or at least the point he made is factually correct. It was not actually Phil though, he just told the story.
I''ll post it shortly.
A player held the stone cold nuts on the turn in Omaha, & COULD NOT POSSIBLY WIN.
Just imagine if that happened on Sky Poker to one of those riggies......
".....OK y’all, the following hand occurred in a $5-$10 blind pot limit Omaha game in Kinder, La. Jeff Sparks out of Houston wrote this hand up, and sent it to me. It reminds me of a very famous statement that I have heard many times…it seems to be right at the tip of my tongue. Oh well, let’s get to the hand right now:
Small blind (SB): holds 5c-7c-8s-9s ($800)
Big blind (BB): holds 3d-5s-7s-8d ($1,000)
Position 1: Under the gun holds Ac-Ad-4c-4d ($600)
Position 2: Jeff holds Kd-Kd-10d-10s ($1,500)
Position 3: Holds As-Qs-Jh-9h ($2,000)
Position 4: Holds Kh-10h-6d-6c ($400)
Position one (P1) brings it in for $35 under the gun, all hands called with good reasoning.
The flop comes down10c-6s-4s.
The SB–with a wrap and a weak flush draw–leads at the pot for $150. The BB calls $150 with a weaker wrap and a straight flush draw, P1 (with bottom set) calls, Jeff (P2) wants a safe turn card before he puts all of his money in the pot with top set, so he just calls. P3 (with the nut flush draw) just calls, and then P6 (with middle set) just calls.
Jeff gets what looks like the second-best card in the deck to him (after the fourth ten), the Kc, for a board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc.
Now the SB checks, the BB checks, P1 checks, and Jeff (P2) bets the pot for about $1,100. After all, he just got the safe card he was looking for with the Kc-it made him a set of kings to go with his set of tens. P3 now has a wrap draw as well as the nut flush draw, and decides to put in all of his chips-about $200 more than Jeff put in. The pot is now so out of shape that P4 has to call with his small money (about $250). Then everyone else calls all-in as well, with about four side pots. $5,800 makes a pretty big pot, especially this early the night (2 hours into the game), and Jeff wants some insurance or at least to see how many outs there are against his hand.
Funny thing about that safe card on the turn though, it gave Jeff the nuts with one to come, but it also killed him deader than a stone! There is not a single card in the deck that can come on the last card that would allow Jeff to win the pot. I just remembered that famous statement: be careful what you ask for, you might get it. In this case, the off suit K looked like Jeff’s second-best-possible card. He got what he wanted, only to find out that it was the worst possible card in the deck for his hand!
Fortunately for Jeff, the big blind ended up drawing out on him on the river when the 2d came off of the deck for a final board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc-2d, which allowed Jeff to only lose $500 on the hand. Repeat that out loud once. Jeff was lucky to only lose $500 on a hand where he had the stone-cold-nuts with one to come!..."
".....OK y’all, the following hand occurred in a $5-$10 blind pot limit Omaha game in Kinder, La. Jeff Sparks out of Houston wrote this hand up, and sent it to me. It reminds me of a very famous statement that I have heard many times…it seems to be right at the tip of my tongue. Oh well, let’s get to the hand right now: Small blind (SB): holds 5c-7c-8s-9s ($800) Big blind (BB): holds 3d-5s-7s-8d ($1,000) Position 1: Under the gun holds Ac-Ad-4c-4d ($600) Position 2: Jeff holds Kd-Kd-10d-10s ($1,500) Position 3: Holds As-Qs-Jh-9h ($2,000) Position 4: Holds Kh-10h-6d-6c ($400) Position one (P1) brings it in for $35 under the gun, all hands called with good reasoning. The flop comes down10c-6s-4s. The SB–with a wrap and a weak flush draw–leads at the pot for $150. The BB calls $150 with a weaker wrap and a straight flush draw, P1 (with bottom set) calls, Jeff (P2) wants a safe turn card before he puts all of his money in the pot with top set, so he just calls. P3 (with the nut flush draw) just calls, and then P6 (with middle set) just calls. Jeff gets what looks like the second-best card in the deck to him (after the fourth ten), the Kc, for a board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc. Now the SB checks, the BB checks, P1 checks, and Jeff (P2) bets the pot for about $1,100. After all, he just got the safe card he was looking for with the Kc-it made him a set of kings to go with his set of tens. P3 now has a wrap draw as well as the nut flush draw, and decides to put in all of his chips-about $200 more than Jeff put in. The pot is now so out of shape that P4 has to call with his small money (about $250). Then everyone else calls all-in as well, with about four side pots. $5,800 makes a pretty big pot, especially this early the night (2 hours into the game), and Jeff wants some insurance or at least to see how many outs there are against his hand. Funny thing about that safe card on the turn though, it gave Jeff the nuts with one to come, but it also killed him deader than a stone! There is not a single card in the deck that can come on the last card that would allow Jeff to win the pot . I just remembered that famous statement: be careful what you ask for, you might get it. In this case, the off suit K looked like Jeff’s second-best-possible card. He got what he wanted, only to find out that it was the worst possible card in the deck for his hand! Fortunately for Jeff, the big blind ended up drawing out on him on the river when the 2d came off of the deck for a final board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc-2d, which allowed Jeff to only lose $500 on the hand. Repeat that out loud once. Jeff was lucky to only lose $500 on a hand where he had the stone-cold-nuts with one to come!..." Posted by Tikay10
Sorry Tikay I hadn't checked this thread for weeks so missed your post.
Really interesting situation and thanks for posting it. Next time I get hit the nuts on the turn I shall fold in honour of this hand!
In Response to Re: Fixed? who regulates sky poker? : Sorry Tikay I hadn't checked this thread for weeks so missed your post. Really interesting situation and thanks for posting it. Next time I get hit the nuts on the turn I shall fold in honour of this hand! Posted by Enut
In a "Live" 6 card Omaha Tourney a few months ago @ The Vic, we were on the Final Table, from about 70 runners.
I flopped the absolute nuts, (straight) with FIVE players still to act behind me.
The board was straighty, with 2 spades. I had no spades & no "extensions" or "improvers".
I check-folded to extreme strength.
One player had top set, one had nut flush draw, one had K flush draw.
The bigger straight got there on the turn, & the river was a spade that paired the board.
I think that is a perfectly standard fold in PLO, an experienced PLO player would not give it a moments thought.
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If I were King for a Day......
I'd make every NLH player play PLO or PLO8 for a month BEFORE they play NLH. That would help them so much to understand the wonders of poker & the outdraws possible.
As you know, in PLO, we can flop the stone cold nuts, & have to fold. Fold the flopped nuts! It's quite usual & normal.
Phil Hellmuth wrote a story once where he held the absolute nuts on the turn in PLO, but COULD NOT POSSIBLY win the hand - every card in the deck beat him on the river.
And if were playing PLO & had the 27th nuts, we'd be nuts to invest another chip.
Very true.
If I play 20 PLO8 DYM's in an evening, I can guarantee I'll fold A-A-x-x pre-flop at least 3 times.
As you say, a difficult concept for NLH players to grasp.
But it puts in context the Opening Post. He lost a perfectly standard hand, not even a bad beat, so he decides to say that the site is "bent". I wonder what he'd say if Sky Poker suggested (hypothetically) he was a cheat? He'd be livid, & quite right too. But he can say Sky Poker is not legit, his evidence being he lost whilst holding the 27th nuts.
Strange old world, 'innit?
I''ll post it shortly.
A player held the stone cold nuts on the turn in Omaha, & COULD NOT POSSIBLY WIN.
Just imagine if that happened on Sky Poker to one of those riggies......
Incidentally, it was LIVE Poker, not Online.
".....OK y’all, the following hand occurred in a $5-$10 blind pot limit Omaha game in Kinder, La. Jeff Sparks out of Houston wrote this hand up, and sent it to me. It reminds me of a very famous statement that I have heard many times…it seems to be right at the tip of my tongue. Oh well, let’s get to the hand right now:
Small blind (SB): holds 5c-7c-8s-9s ($800)
Big blind (BB): holds 3d-5s-7s-8d ($1,000)
Position 1: Under the gun holds Ac-Ad-4c-4d ($600)
Position 2: Jeff holds Kd-Kd-10d-10s ($1,500)
Position 3: Holds As-Qs-Jh-9h ($2,000)
Position 4: Holds Kh-10h-6d-6c ($400)
Position one (P1) brings it in for $35 under the gun, all hands called with good reasoning.
The flop comes down10c-6s-4s.
The SB–with a wrap and a weak flush draw–leads at the pot for $150. The BB calls $150 with a weaker wrap and a straight flush draw, P1 (with bottom set) calls, Jeff (P2) wants a safe turn card before he puts all of his money in the pot with top set, so he just calls. P3 (with the nut flush draw) just calls, and then P6 (with middle set) just calls.
Jeff gets what looks like the second-best card in the deck to him (after the fourth ten), the Kc, for a board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc.
Now the SB checks, the BB checks, P1 checks, and Jeff (P2) bets the pot for about $1,100. After all, he just got the safe card he was looking for with the Kc-it made him a set of kings to go with his set of tens. P3 now has a wrap draw as well as the nut flush draw, and decides to put in all of his chips-about $200 more than Jeff put in. The pot is now so out of shape that P4 has to call with his small money (about $250). Then everyone else calls all-in as well, with about four side pots. $5,800 makes a pretty big pot, especially this early the night (2 hours into the game), and Jeff wants some insurance or at least to see how many outs there are against his hand.
Funny thing about that safe card on the turn though, it gave Jeff the nuts with one to come, but it also killed him deader than a stone! There is not a single card in the deck that can come on the last card that would allow Jeff to win the pot. I just remembered that famous statement: be careful what you ask for, you might get it. In this case, the off suit K looked like Jeff’s second-best-possible card. He got what he wanted, only to find out that it was the worst possible card in the deck for his hand!
Fortunately for Jeff, the big blind ended up drawing out on him on the river when the 2d came off of the deck for a final board of 10c-6s-4s-Kc-2d, which allowed Jeff to only lose $500 on the hand. Repeat that out loud once. Jeff was lucky to only lose $500 on a hand where he had the stone-cold-nuts with one to come!..."
Really interesting situation and thanks for posting it. Next time I get hit the nuts on the turn I shall fold in honour of this hand!
I flopped the absolute nuts, (straight) with FIVE players still to act behind me.
The board was straighty, with 2 spades. I had no spades & no "extensions" or "improvers".
I check-folded to extreme strength.
One player had top set, one had nut flush draw, one had K flush draw.
The bigger straight got there on the turn, & the river was a spade that paired the board.
I think that is a perfectly standard fold in PLO, an experienced PLO player would not give it a moments thought.