IS THERE ANY WAY TO ESCAPE THESE SITUATIONS?

ANGRYLEVI

Hand History #849486103 (20:46 14/12/2014)

bIG TOURNEY £110 buy in two players 12k each from starting 10k stacks

He MAKES SMALL RAISE

I call pocket 22 hits k23 flop

Anyone good enoug to think he has pocket kings? 

Surely 23 ,k3 flush draw , pocket aces and AK all play out the same?

Only kk most unlikely beats me

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ANGRYLEVI	Small blind		40.00	40.00	12495.00
1281	Big blind		80.00	120.00	9286.25
	Your hole cards	2 2
SoLack	Fold
ctbn	Fold
KEVMAN13	Call		80.00	200.00	7450.00
beardyjohn	Raise		240.00	440.00	10700.00
ANGRYLEVI	Call		200.00	640.00	12295.00
1281	Fold
KEVMAN13	Call		160.00	800.00	7290.00
Flop
		2 K 3
ANGRYLEVI	Check
KEVMAN13	Check
beardyjohn	Bet		350.00	1150.00	10350.00
ANGRYLEVI	Raise		700.00	1850.00	11595.00
KEVMAN13	Fold
beardyjohn	Raise		1350.00	3200.00	9000.00
ANGRYLEVI	Raise		5200.00	8400.00	6395.00
beardyjohn	All-in		9000.00	17400.00	0.00
ANGRYLEVI	All-in		6395.00	23795.00	0.00
ANGRYLEVI	Unmatched bet		1595.00	22200.00	1595.00
ANGRYLEVI	Show	2 2
beardyjohn	Show	K K
Turn
		3
River
		Q
beardyjohn	Win	Full House, Kings and 3s	22200.00		22200.0

hhyftrftdr

Set over set is always hard, sometimes impossible, to get away from.

You have played it very strong on the flop and he still wants to shovel chips in....I'm not sure how crazy he goes with AA and AK on the flop, or even some combo draw like A4s, especially with position.

It's a weird spot cos it's hard not to lose the lot, but you have to ask yourself what could he have that is desperate to play for stacks on that flop.

Villain is a very good, well known player fwiw.

F_Ivanovic

Most of the time, nope. Flop 3-bets are in general really very strong though and so there is definitely cause for concern when that happens and I may consider just flatting the flop 3-bet. We would still likely go broke (esp when we hit our FH OTT) but our hand at this point is a very strong bluff catcher - if we 4-bet/ship flop here then our hand range for just flatting the 3-bet becomes really weak. (mostly draws and Kx hands)

The other option which would have saved you is to consider folding pre. We're OOP and with the worst pair possible it's just really hard to play post-flop unless we hit a set. And even when we do flop a set we've then got to make enough chips to counter balance the ones we lose when we don't flop a set. A good player isn't going to pay you off either unless you've been active enough with other hands that he may think you are at it. So yeah overall it isn't a very profitable pre-flop call and as such it's a situation that could be avoided. Still, v unlucky to run into another set!