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FAO Sky, Sng Promotion

jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
edited December 2014 in Poker Chat
Is there anyway of finding out how close I was off of a top 5 prize? I stopped 30 mins before the end of the promotion believing I had already locked up a prize.. Even though  finding out will annoy me greatly it would be good to see how far some people were off of the leaderboard as it would help me gauge these things better for future promotions.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to FAO Sky, Sng Promotion:
    Is there anyway of finding out how close I was off of a top 5 prize? I stopped 30 mins before the end of the promotion believing I had already locked up a prize.. Even though  finding out will annoy me greatly it would be good to see how far some people were off of the leaderboard as it would help me gauge these things better for future promotions.
    Posted by jordz16

    Hi Jordz,

    If you are referring to yesterday, I think you can see the Top 5     HERE

    I don't imagine they wil be publishing any data beyond that, but as least you'll know how far off you were.
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2014
    I have no real way of knowing how far off i was, I made about 6k points but i played a few cash games, sats and tournaments too..

    pretty annoying if i cant even find out how many points i got!
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,640
    edited December 2014


    A very good night for this player....

    Roller win....
    weesambo9119400001£5400
    Plus a phone to put in that 'car'.....

    WEESAMBO915431iPhone 6
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2014
    Especially considering they signed up less than a week ago!
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  • patwalshhpatwalshh Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014
    Russian roulette should be disallowed from promotions like this. It's a joke that players can manipulate the results
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  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited December 2014
    Unfortunatly jordz I had a look last night to confirm for Alvez if he won or not and you lost out by

    30 points or £3 in rake 

    Russian roulette should be barred I agree but pixie chose to lose more than the promo reward again in them so sky won't chnage it as its a lot of rake for them to turn down, business is business. 

    Unlucky jordz 
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  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited December 2014
    Ignore that I had no idea rtc won one I thought Alvez was the 5th player sigh I forgot rtc and pixie play rrs together.

    You got 4840 points I think off the top of my head 
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited December 2014
    UL Jordz, agree RR should be banned.

    As nutter said they won't, they'll have made a killing off them yest.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited December 2014

    Did all players in the top 5 play RRs?

    Was amazed when I seen 5 players had 5k plus

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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2014
    Ugh fairly sure if i didnt take a 30 min break near the end i would have locked it up then.. will be interesting to see how many of teh top 5 are still playing on the site in the new year, only name i recognised was Timmyrara
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  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited December 2014
    Pixie and rtc are long term Russian roulette players.....they blast most point promos this way.

    Timmy sng reg we all know
    Weeds new high stakes cash reg and won roller last night probably here to stay but no idea why they wanted to grind there beans off for a phone if they are indeed a high shakes cash reg
    Kaipi is also a long term hu reg also here to stay 
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  • patwalshhpatwalshh Member Posts: 772
    edited December 2014
    Kalepi and Timmy didn't play RR, the vast majority of everyone elses volume was. At least the silver lining is that Alvez didn't win the iPhone
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2014
    Kalepi and weesam played a ton of RR's too, i think il give these point races a miss from now on, too much stress!
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  • mrsduckmrsduck Member Posts: 1,901
    edited December 2014
    UL Jordz! :( Merry Christmas :)
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  • alex1229alex1229 Member Posts: 680
    edited December 2014
    Started the day thinking yeah might have a chance in this, frequently play all the highest buy in DYM's so thought id give it a crack - a couple of hours into it quickly dawned on me i wouldnt have a chance - mainly down to these RR games so packed it in early.

    As others have said would be better in the future to see RR excluded, and see people actually have to play for their points. Im suprised how many points was needed for this 5k in one day unreal.

    UL to those who just missed out.
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion:
    Started the day thinking yeah might have a chance in this, frequently play all the highest buy in DYM's so thought id give it a crack - a couple of hours into it quickly dawned on me i wouldnt have a chance - mainly down to these RR games so packed it in early. As others have said would be better in the future to see RR excluded, and see people actually have to play for their points. Im suprised how many points was needed for this 5k in one day unreal. UL to those who just missed out.
    Posted by alex1229
    These promotions are weighted towards those who have the biggest bankrolls, and the most expendible income..  this is disgraceful and very unfair.  

    The promotion should be based on performance (longest win streak).. and not on your bank account!
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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2014

    I think that if 2 players play alot of RR together in points promotion does this not count as collusion?

    They will know that they are losing the rake - they know that luck not skill will determine the profit/loss - they will also know that if rolled for it they are a lock in for the points race.

    This may be total collusion whereby 2 players pay each off to balance out any losses, just implied that in the long run it should even itself out on the P/L front.

    Worst case of course it could be multi-accounting.

    Not saying any 2 player ids in particular are colluding or multi-tabling but I would hope Sky look at playing patterns before paying out.

    As stated having RR count for a points race is asking for this sort of thing to happen because it is an easy way to rig the system.

    No problem with higher rolled players with the time to grind winning prizes I have no chance of - but it would be better left to people who actually play poker on this poker site.

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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion:
    I think that if 2 players play alot of RR together in points promotion does this not count as collusion? They will know that they are losing the rake - they know that luck not skill will determine the profit/loss - they will also know that if rolled for it they are a lock in for the points race. This may be total collusion whereby 2 players pay each off to balance out any losses, just implied that in the long run it should even itself out on the P/L front. Worst case of course it could be multi-accounting. Not saying any 2 player ids in particular are colluding or multi-tabling but I would hope Sky look at playing patterns before paying out. As stated having RR count for a points race is asking for this sort of thing to happen because it is an easy way to rig the system. No problem with higher rolled players with the time to grind winning prizes I have no chance of - but it would be better left to people who actually play poker on this poker site.
    Posted by Phantom66
    2 people mutually deciding to play RR can not in any shape be considered collusion!! Also paying off each other to balance losses would be stupid/needless since it's a zero sum game for them both minus the rake anyway.

    Also, as for RR being banned in future promo's - again I don't see the need. These are losing players. Sky should reward them for putting in volume even if it is in a game of chance. Hopefully it will encourage them to keep on playing on sky - which is exactly what the regular players want!
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  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion:
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion : 2 people mutually deciding to play RR can not in any shape be considered collusion!! Also paying off each other to balance losses would be stupid/needless since it's a zero sum game for them both minus the rake anyway. Also, as for RR being banned in future promo's - again I don't see the need. These are losing players. Sky should reward them for putting in volume even if it is in a game of chance. Hopefully it will encourage them to keep on playing on sky - which is exactly what the regular players want!
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    Didn't someone win a rake race before by playing a stack of RR games, but run bad in them such that they barely broke even after winning the promo?

    Given that you must have to lose about £400 or so in rake to win the promo (worth it for a £750-ish phone I guess), it wouldn't take much variance to lose 55-60% or more of the RRs and end up losing overall - would seem to make a lot of sense then to have an agreement with another player to take on each other and remove the variance for a guaranteed win.

    Disappointed in myself for not doing that very thing and picking up a cheap iPhone for almost no effort :)
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  • alex1229alex1229 Member Posts: 680
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion:
    In Response to Re: FAO Sky, Sng Promotion : Didn't someone win a rake race before by playing a stack of RR games, but run bad in them such that they barely broke even after winning the promo? Given that you must have to lose about £400 or so in rake to win the promo (worth it for a £750-ish phone I guess), it wouldn't take much variance to lose 55-60% or more of the RRs and end up losing overall - would seem to make a lot of sense then to have an agreement with another player to take on each other and remove the variance for a guaranteed win. Disappointed in myself for not doing that very thing and picking up a cheap iPhone for almost no effort :)
    Posted by shakinaces
    Yeah Alvez

    Most of the guys would have barely covered the cost of a phone anyway, once your play starts becoming losing, its really not worth the effort
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