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So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?

JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
edited December 2014 in Brags, Beats and Variance

So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal and random" hand..?

Ok so i have to shove with A5 because i'm shortstacked,  and fair enough the KK should win because he's ahead..

But really..   two fives on the flop..  followed by a king on the river?

is this because my rag was a 5 ??

If i had A4..  and villian had QQ..   would it of come 44 on the flop, with a queen on the river?

I think the answer is Yes..!

Hand History #851967861 (19:45 21/12/2014)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancedaithom27Small blind 75.0075.003165.00CROQUETBig blind 150.00225.005190.00 Your hole cards5A   JimRiddle7All-in 1205.001430.000.00BFC4EVER09Fold    daithom27All-in 3165.004595.000.00CROQUETFold    daithom27Unmatched bet 2035.002560.002035.00daithom27ShowKK   JimRiddle7Show5A   Flop  355   Turn  6   River  K   daithom27WinFull House, Kings and 5s2560.00 4595.00
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    And then of course there is this one...

    an £11 bounty hunter and some idiot raises 4.5 bb with 10 6 off......?

    I feel im way ahead with AJ so re-raise all in...   AND HE CALLS AND WINS....

    THIS IS WHY I AM LEAVING SKY....


    Hand History #852018305 (21:12 21/12/2014)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceteff6790Small blind 100.00100.006935.00smoki3Big blind 200.00300.005885.00 Your hole cardshttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); text-align: center; padding-bottom: 10px; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 0px 0px 0px 2px; padding-left: 0px; width: 15px; padding-right: 0px; display: block; background-position: 1px 100%; color: #000000; font-size: 0.9em; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; border: #9bc3e5 1px solid" class="club">Ahttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif'); text-align: center; padding-bottom: 10px; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 0px 0px 0px 2px; padding-left: 0px; width: 15px; padding-right: 0px; display: block; background-position: 1px 100%; color: #dd0000; font-size: 0.9em; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; border: #9bc3e5 1px solid" class="heart">J   glassman60Fold    JimRiddle7Call 200.00500.003832.50liono369Fold    https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif'); padding-bottom: 0px; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 18px; background-position: 100% 100%; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial" class="dealer">staceyd666Raise 900.001400.009685.00teff6790Fold    smoki3Fold    JimRiddle7All-in 3832.505232.500.00staceyd666Call 3132.508365.006552.50JimRiddle7Show
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       staceyd666Show
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       Flop  
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       Turn  
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       River  
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       staceyd666WinPair of 6s8365.00 14917.50
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  • reelerreeler Member Posts: 422
    edited December 2014
    u all ined and he had to call lmao best hand won
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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2014
    They happen to us all.

    If you cant deal with them then poker aint going to be much fun for you.

    Find a way to deal with standard run outs or find a new hobby imo
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    u all ined and he had to call lmao best hand won
    Posted by reeler
    You are both quite right Reeler and Teddy.. but if you read my post you will see that i am not complaining about losing the hand...

    I would like your opinion on the board texture as it was dealt..

    Obviously i didnt want a call holding A5..  but too many times i see flops and rivers that strongly connect with the players hands that are in the pot..

    do you understand that?

    I am told that in live play..  it is very hard to connect with a flop.. and yet here i flop trip 5's, and villian makes a full house on the river...


    are you telling me that this is purely coincidence?

    it would make more sence if the flop river and turn were all bricks, and i would lose the hand anyway..

    why does the software mimic peoples hands??

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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2014
    To make it more exciting innit.
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    To make it more exciting innit.
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    Yep, maybe, i'm glad you understand my point teddy.. and kinda believe it instead of pretending i'm a nut job like hfghfghfghr does.. lol

    but seriously, people just accept it too easily..  ive seen sooo many hands on here, but youre about to finish a dym and you're sitting there with AA..

    the small stack is panicing and shoves with something like 7 5 off..  then the flop and turn come K75 7

    sometimes it just doesnt seem random..  but hey, no-one believes me anyway..
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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2014
    the small stack is panicing and shoves with something like 7 5 off..  then the flop and turn come K75 7

    River A, shurely
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    the small stack is panicing and shoves with something like 7 5 off..  then the flop and turn come K75 7 River A, shurely
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    Lol Teddy,  nope, i'm afraid not..  haha
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  • acky1985acky1985 Member Posts: 78
    edited December 2014

    u do understand this happens in live the same % as online sky or anyother site .

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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..? : Yep, maybe, i'm glad you understand my point teddy.. and kinda believe it instead of pretending i'm a nut job like hfghfghfghr does.. lol but seriously, people just accept it too easily..  ive seen sooo many hands on here, but youre about to finish a dym and you're sitting there with AA.. the small stack is panicing and shoves with something like 7 5 off..  then the flop and turn come K75 7 sometimes it just doesnt seem random..  but hey, no-one believes me anyway..
    Posted by JimRiddle7
    Yeah, I do think you're a nut job. And sorry to shatter your illusion, but Teddy will think along the same lines as me as well. I think he has well and truly wooooshed you above!

    Surprised to see a guy who has played over 14k games on Sky crying about hands in BBV. Need to sharpen up your mental game whilst you dry your eyes, or just give up altogether.

    FWIW if you post a hand without the drama and tears I'll happily give you my thoughts.
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..? : Yeah, I do think you're a nut job. And sorry to shatter your illusion, but Teddy will think along the same lines as me as well. I think he has well and truly wooooshed you above! Surprised to see a guy who has played over 14k games on Sky crying about hands in BBV. Need to sharpen up your mental game whilst you dry your eyes, or just give up altogether. FWIW if you post a hand without the drama and tears I'll happily give you my thoughts.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    I dont want your thoughts, you're delusional if you think you're playing a randomly dealt game..

    Hand below..  I KNEW what the river was before it fell....  I dont need your approval m8..  you're WRONG..

    Hand History #852182207 (12:04 22/12/2014)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceMannimoreSmall blind 15.0015.003715.00muggywireBig blind 30.0045.002300.00 Your hole cardshttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif'); text-align: center; padding-bottom: 10px; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 0px 0px 0px 2px; padding-left: 0px; width: 15px; padding-right: 0px; display: block; background-position: 1px 100%; color: #000000; font-size: 0.9em; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; border: #9bc3e5 1px solid" class="spade">Ahttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); text-align: center; padding-bottom: 10px; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 0px 0px 0px 2px; padding-left: 0px; width: 15px; padding-right: 0px; display: block; background-position: 1px 100%; color: #000000; font-size: 0.9em; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; border: #9bc3e5 1px solid" class="club">A   JimRiddle7All-in 150.00195.000.00hobbit1210Fold    summonerCall 150.00345.001805.00https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif'); padding-bottom: 0px; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 18px; background-position: 100% 100%; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial" class="dealer">herbdFold    MannimoreFold    muggywireFold    JimRiddle7Show
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       summonerShow
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       Flop  
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       Turn  
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       River  
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       summonerWinStraight to the 9345.00 2150.00
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  • memfnomemfno Member Posts: 461
    edited December 2014
    i was playing live at bolton G on saturday night, we were doen to the final 30 players one player had approx 200K (about double chip average) in 3 consecutive hands he was gone. Getting it in good agains smaller stacks and being rivered in each hand, once by me. If it had been online, all conspiricists and their dog would have yelled "rigged". 

    The thing to remember in Poker is if, for instances you get it in good everytime doesnt mean you will win a tournament, If you get it in 4-1 on 10 times in a row, you are SUPPOSED TO LOSE TWICE. Thats the nature of the beast.
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  • Nuggy962Nuggy962 Member Posts: 1,104
    edited December 2014
    Hi Jimmy riddle can you answer me a question?

    In a previous post you said if short stack shoves they always win and flop would come 997 if held 97? So guess this hand proves that's wrong!!
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,611
    edited December 2014
    I haven't read the rest of the replies, because I really don't want to, but I'll just say this:

    You called an all-in with a raggy ace and lost to a better hand. It doesn't matter at all that there were two fives on the flop because your money was already in the middle. You were behind going in, and you were behind coming out.

    That's it really.
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  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited December 2014
    Bafflements

    Your scope is really good.
    You're very experienced online. 
    After 12k games shouldn't you be past all this crapp?
    Also if you always know what the river card is going up be, shouldn't you play through the streets and by the turn you'll know whether you're going to win the hand or not?

    Your read on  hhyftrftdr is pretty good in fairness though.
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  • RLT16RLT16 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited December 2014
    id just like to say that after reading your recent BBV posts, seeing you sat on the same DYM tables as me today made some very interesting viewing, and i cant help but agree with the people advising you to look at your own play and how it can help prevent these bad beats (although i did see you take one genuinely sick one today which im sure will be posted soon)  until then though i look forward to seeing you at more tables :)

    *ater posting this i noticed you posted the hand i mentioned into your other bbv thread*
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    id just like to say that after reading your recent BBV posts, seeing you sat on the same DYM tables as me today made some very interesting viewing, and i cant help but agree with the people advising you to look at your own play and how it can help prevent these bad beats (although i did see you take one genuinely sick one today which im sure will be posted soon)  until then though i look forward to seeing you at more tables :) *ater posting this i noticed you posted the hand i mentioned into your other bbv thread*
    Posted by RLT16
    Ok so i dont know why you're all blind to this...  and why you all blindly defend the software..

    LOOK at our starting hands...   

    now LOOK at the flop...........

    Hand History #853868408 (23:42 26/12/2014)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceRLT16Small blind 75.0075.001370.00wallace227Big blind 150.00225.004650.00 Your hole cardshttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="diamond">9
    https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="club">9   THEBRUCE13Fold    https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: transparent; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 100% 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="dealer">JimRiddle7Call 150.00375.001805.00RLT16Fold    wallace227Raise 150.00525.004500.00JimRiddle7All-in 1805.002330.000.00wallace227Call 1655.003985.002845.00wallace227Show   JimRiddle7Show
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       Flop     Turn  
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       River     wallace227WinFlush to the Ace3985.00 6830.00
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  • RLT16RLT16 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited December 2014
    probably for the same reason your blind to the 1000's of times the flop misses absolutely everything
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  • JimRiddle7JimRiddle7 Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: So you're all going to tell me this is a "normal" hand..?:
    id just like to say that after reading your recent BBV posts, seeing you sat on the same DYM tables as me today made some very interesting viewing, and i cant help but agree with the people advising you to look at your own play and how it can help prevent these bad beats (although i did see you take one genuinely sick one today which im sure will be posted soon)  until then though i look forward to seeing you at more tables :) *ater posting this i noticed you posted the hand i mentioned into your other bbv thread*
    Posted by RLT16
    Ok guys i just dont know why you're all blind to this.. and why you're defending the software..

    LOOK at our starting hands....

    now LOOK at the flop....

    Hand History #853868408 (23:42 26/12/2014)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceRLT16Small blind 75.0075.001370.00wallace227Big blind 150.00225.004650.00 Your hole cardshttps://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="diamond">9
    https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="club">9   THEBRUCE13Fold    https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: transparent; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 100% 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="dealer">JimRiddle7Call 150.00375.001805.00RLT16Fold    wallace227Raise 150.00525.004500.00JimRiddle7All-in 1805.002330.000.00wallace227Call 1655.003985.002845.00wallace227Show   JimRiddle7Show
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    • https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="club">9
       Flop     Turn  
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       River     wallace227WinFlush to the Ace3985.00 6830.00
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  • CATCH-22CATCH-22 Member Posts: 270
    edited December 2014
    it really doesnt matter what anyone says jimmy always knows
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