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Should I be readily folding AK suiting more often?
Marcusb169
Member Posts: 12
I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of regular playing money making players as I found this hand quite difficult. I play a lot of poker and will pull a lot of silly moves when I'm impatient or pot committed with my back against the wall but this was a hand I played and was conscious of the other player's range as I played it.
A couple of quick questions,
1, would you happily go all in with K A suited or would you fold to an all in pre-flop?
2, if you saw a big raise and reraise before you, would you call, reraise or fold?
3, how would you have played my hand below, to summarise a small stack gets all his chips in, I am then heads up with another player for the rest of my stack. I had AK, the SS pocket 10's and the player that took the rest of my stack pocket q's. As you'll see below, a K Q 9 flop came and all the chips went in. Was I unlucky or should I be folding to a bet?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts and I hope my copy and paste works below.
A couple of quick questions,
1, would you happily go all in with K A suited or would you fold to an all in pre-flop?
2, if you saw a big raise and reraise before you, would you call, reraise or fold?
3, how would you have played my hand below, to summarise a small stack gets all his chips in, I am then heads up with another player for the rest of my stack. I had AK, the SS pocket 10's and the player that took the rest of my stack pocket q's. As you'll see below, a K Q 9 flop came and all the chips went in. Was I unlucky or should I be folding to a bet?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts and I hope my copy and paste works below.
Hand History #852035075 (21:40 21/12/2014)
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| madeyeII | Small blind | 100.00 | 100.00 | 13790.00 | |
| stacker59 | Big blind | 200.00 | 300.00 | 22010.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| PRO3000 | Fold | ||||
| Marcusb169 | Raise | 500.00 | 800.00 | 15040.00 | |
| Buttafngrs | Call | 500.00 | 1300.00 | 6285.00 | |
| IrishRose | Raise | 2300.00 | 3600.00 | 3735.00 | |
| madeyeII | Fold | ||||
| stacker59 | Raise | 4150.00 | 7750.00 | 17860.00 | |
| Marcusb169 | Call | 3850.00 | 11600.00 | 11190.00 | |
| Buttafngrs | Fold | ||||
| IrishRose | All-in | 3735.00 | 15335.00 | 0.00 | |
| stacker59 | Call | 1685.00 | 17020.00 | 16175.00 | |
| Marcusb169 | Call | 1685.00 | 18705.00 | 9505.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| stacker59 | Check | ||||
| Marcusb169 | Bet | 4000.00 | 22705.00 | 5505.00 | |
| stacker59 | All-in | 16175.00 | 38880.00 | 0.00 | |
| Marcusb169 | All-in | 5505.00 | 44385.00 | 0.00 | |
| stacker59 | Unmatched bet | 6670.00 | 37715.00 | 6670.00 | |
| stacker59 | Show |
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| Marcusb169 | Show |
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| IrishRose | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| stacker59 | Win | Full House, Queens and 3s | 37715.00 | ||
Comments
I would of called the all in shove as their all in range could be quite wide, but the over shove would definately worry me and i might fold and wait for a better spot..
if you thought he would do this with AQ.. then reshove over him and stack off, but for me it feels like AA or KK in this spot..
when you called and hit top pair, theres nothing you can do..
but remember AK is a DRAWING hand... if the flop comes 47J .. youve just lost most of your stack..
If you are confident he can have all QQ and AK combos then you could 5-bet shove as sort of a bluff (but it also has value because if Irish calls and stacker folds we've trapped some good dead money.) It looks very strong and could very well get stacker to fold QQ and AK.
Calling just puts us in a really awkward spot. As played post flop - it's pretty horrible. Can't fault you for betting flop after being checked to and I like the small size.... but when stacker ships it's a puke spot. He always has value here and even though we're getting a great price and don't have many chips left if we fold I think it might be the right option - but definitely don't blame you for calling - I'd find it tough to fold in game there too.
It's not a made hand but its far from a drawing hand.
As played it's a sigh fold when shoved over on turn but so hard to find in game.
Interesting hand, thanks for posting.
How many times do people bust tournaments running Ax into AK?
Up until this weekend I always pushed all in with AK, i know it's not a made hand but I prefer it up against a lot of hands as with any pair you can be up against an overpair which crushes you whereas AK tends to always give the opportunity to hit on 6 cards when up against pocket Q's or less (obviously).
I however over the last couple of weeks have lost every heads up AK against a lower pair everytime the money went in which a lot of the times were middling pairs. I thought on this occasion 2 things, the second of which I didn't have to worry about. Firstly if I'm prepared to go all in, then to do it in 2 stages will mean players holding a pocket pair postflop that hasn't hit but overcards sitting there would give me some fold equity if I push all in rather than 7's holding up and secondly if I hit the flop then I'm laughing. I didn't end up laughing but that was my reason behind the flat call against what could have been another middle pair. You'll see from my options mentioned that I was going to be chasing those chips on most flops and not really thinking about an exit.
Looking back on the hand I think I should of folded but even at the time couldn't bring myself to do it, convincing myself of 2 things. My bet looks weak and the money has gone in because of the small stack and the reraise was to try and get him head to head. I get 3 barrelled into and they've got nothing but a bluff and too committed to the pot and that is what of course makes poker as fun as what it is. (Although I do it enjoy it more when I win the hand...well a series of them, any previous hands I won in the tournament are long forgotten once I'm out, that's the one I dwell on)
And i have a training video by Daniel Negreanu where he stresses that AK is a DRAWING hand...
Learn the game please..