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Blocked stats on sharkscope

swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
edited June 2017 in Poker Chat

Interesting question - why do people block them?

Too good, or too bad, or something else?
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited December 2014

    Or a bot perhaps? Would have 'interesting' stats.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    Interesting question - why do people block them? Too good, or too bad, or something else?
    Posted by swanstu
    Almost always 1 of the above.
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    In Response to Blocked stats on sharkscope : Almost always 1 of the above.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    Guess should refuse to play anyone who blocks them.

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope : Guess should refuse to play anyone who blocks them.
    Posted by swanstu
    Why? 

    Given that there are almost 10x more big losing players than big winning players, it would make sense to try and play them as much as possible?
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope : Why?  Given that there are almost 10x more big losing players than big winning players, it would make sense to try and play them as much as possible?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    How do you know that, if I can ask?

    Would have though makes more sense for a shark to block them, so people don't run away.
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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2014
    In my experience they tend to be bad regs. Or people who see themselves as regs, but only want to play people who have only just learned that a flush beats a straight. Nearly every player who has whinged about being sat has been "reg" with blocked stats.

    Recreationals tend not to care who they play, good players might scope their opponents pregame.

    No doubt very good players block stats for action purposes,  but bad players do too

    Unfortunately people sometimes use scope to make fun of peoples losses, and that leads to losing players blocking stats too.
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,474
    edited December 2014
    I block mine for pure privacy reasons.
    I mean would you post your bank account on-line for all to see?
    Also keeps people guessing but i'm not sure that i get scoped in the games i play.
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited December 2014

    If I see a player with stats blocked I would simply not play them, as all information is useful. With blocked stats you have no information at all.
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,640
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    If I see a player with stats blocked I would simply not play them, as all information is useful. With blocked stats you have no information at all.
    Posted by swanstu
    Er... really?
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  • EASYFIXEASYFIX Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    If I see a player with stats blocked I would simply not play them, as all information is useful. With blocked stats you have no information at all.
    Posted by swanstu
    Is your name Kermit?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    If I see a player with stats blocked I would simply not play them, as all information is useful. With blocked stats you have no information at all.
    Posted by swanstu
    What would you do in "Live" poker?

    FWIW, in my experience, the majority of players with Blocked SS Stats are not winners.

    When we sit at a table in, say, a DYM or Cash Game, we generally know within 2 Orbits whether they are winners or losers. That's part of the skill in poker, recognizing who is good, & who is not so good. We don't need SS to tell us that, we can learn almost immediately by observation.       
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited December 2014

    Ok, should rephrase that - not no information, but no information about their relative strength/profile (unless I'd played them before of course).

    Either way, it's a reduction in information about an opponent - never good in Poker is it?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    Ok, should rephrase that - not no information, but no information about their relative strength/profile (unless I'd played them before of course). Either way, it's a reduction in information about an opponent - never good in Poker is it?
    Posted by swanstu
    I promise you Swan, watch ANY player for 2 orbits & you should know straight away if they are any good or not.

    The good ones stand out a mile. So do the bad ones.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    Ok, should rephrase that - not no information, but no information about their relative strength/profile (unless I'd played them before of course). Either way, it's a reduction in information about an opponent - never good in Poker is it?
    Posted by swanstu
    Well you could also say that about HUD's & the like - but imo, they are a BAD thing, & Sky Poker do not permit them. Many players prefer it that way.

    You can't FORCE folks do make their stats available.

    Anyway, you have to do what you think is right Swan, good luck bud.



     
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  • cowheadcowhead Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2014
    Hi Stu, good original question. 

    Personally I'd say its a 50/50 split of good and bad, The sharks want action and the fish dont want people at their tablr giving them stick (which I hate and is totally out of order). I do agree with Tikay though about being able to identify either after a few orbits. 


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  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,640
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope : always got somthing to say that (TRY) makes people look stupid do you work for sky or can you not take your h... out of there a...
    Posted by DESERTTURK
    What's your point?

    I was wondering how (and even, why) the poster could/would refuse to play said individuals, unless they were heads up.

    In an MTT, SNG, or a six-max or full ring cash game it's pretty hard not to play one particular person, don't you think?

    It ain't me who's trying to make him look stupid.
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  • MRBURNS4MRBURNS4 Member Posts: 1,152
    edited December 2014
    Not all of us that block out our stats are losing players some of us have very difficult xwives for example :)
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2014
    In my opinion very few big, big winners will block their stats purely for egotistical reasons, they want people to see how good they are, the fish will still play them and the smaller time pros will give them a miss. perfect.
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  • swanstuswanstu Member Posts: 261
    edited August 2015

    Just thought I'd add to this, and some good issues above thanks.

    Also, what about players who don't seem to show at all on sharkscope - not meaning blocked, but they don't appear at all, and many of these are very regular players?

    It doesn't seem to be 'opted out' either, as that option shows up, I believe as simply 'opted out'.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    edited August 2015
    In Response to Re: Blocked stats on sharkscope:
    Just thought I'd add to this, and some good issues above thanks. Also, what about players who don't seem to show at all on sharkscope - not meaning blocked, but they don't appear at all, and many of these are very regular players? It doesn't seem to be 'opted out' either, as that option shows up, I believe as simply 'opted out'.
    Posted by swanstu
    They may be players who only play cash games. Sharkscope only covers MTT's & SNG's.

    I can't think of many situations where a player who plays MTT's or SNG's is not on Sharkscope. In fact I don't ever recall seeing it. That's certainly the case with Sky Poker players. Some are locked, but they are all on there.

    Just to repeat what I have posted before, but Sky Poker do not give ANY information to Sharkscope, Sharkscope simply take it.        
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