Can't argue with your decision there Tikay, if anybody deserves a UKOPS seat then it is definitely rainman. Was a great afternoon of poker yesterday and all for £2.20. Is anybody up for playing it again later?????
Best of luck rainmain, hope you run deep and will certainly pop along to rail you.
I'm sure you know a lot more about poker ethics than me and that this is just a fun micro-stakes games, but this still seems a tad naughty imo. You've effectively agreed to consolidate your stacks, giving the winner of the flip a free rebuy and a significant advantage over his or her opponents. Would you still have made third place in this tournament without that double-up? I've no idea how far into the tournament this happened, but had the UKOPS entry been available macagirl1 would have had a far greater chance of winning it than anybody else. Posted by GaryQQQ
they were sat together late on in the tournament a long time after the minimum off 100 runners had not been met
I'm sure you know a lot more about poker ethics than me and that this is just a fun micro-stakes games, but this still seems a tad naughty imo. You've effectively agreed to consolidate your stacks, giving the winner of the flip a free rebuy and a significant advantage over his or her opponents. Would you still have made third place in this tournament without that double-up? I've no idea how far into the tournament this happened, but had the UKOPS entry been available macagirl1 would have had a far greater chance of winning it than anybody else. Posted by GaryQQQ
It was fairly early in the Tourney as I recall, the starting stack was 4,000, & I had around 7,000 at the time after a "fast start".
It's impossible to say if I would have finished 3rd without that double up, but I agree, it's highly unlikely.
No "naughtyness" or ill-intent existed, it was spur of the moment, & just intended as fun. The rest of the Table seemed to enjoy & applaud the "spirit" of it.
I'm more than happy to donate my winnings to charity if anyone thinks my actions were unethical.
It was, genuinely, just a bit of fun between two fierce competitors & good friends, not pre-meditated in any way, & not intended to confer any advantage over anyone.
"effectively agreed to consolidate stacks" was certainly not how it was intended, it never crossed my mind.
Good afternoon GaryQQQ. The way Sir Tikay and Macacgirl were playing was purely for fun and enjoyed by everyone at the table and the railers, i am sure no one at the table saw it as a way to double up. Also the late reg lasts 12 minutes and was well over by the time this had happened, and was well short of 100 runners. All the best. Rainman397
Good afternoon GaryQQQ. The way Sir Tikay and Macacgirl were playing was purely for fun and enjoyed by everyone at the table and the railers, i am sure no one at the table saw it as a way to double up. Also the late reg lasts 12 minutes and was well over by the time this had happened, and was well short of 100 runners. All the best. Rainman397 Posted by rainman397
Oops, I got that wrong, too.
Late Reg had closed by the time it happened, but I don't really have a precise memory of what stage it arose. I thought it was early doors, maybe early to mid. I know I had 7,000 or so, & Macac had double that.
Good afternoon Waller. Thank you for good luck message, it was an honour and pleasure to be sat at the same table as yourself yesterday, really enjoyed the banter between yourself and Hhy. All the best. Rainman397 In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
Can't argue with your decision there Tikay, if anybody deserves a UKOPS seat then it is definitely rainman. Was a great afternoon of poker yesterday and all for £2.20. Is anybody up for playing it again later????? Best of luck rainmain, hope you run deep and will certainly pop along to rail you. Posted by waller02
Good afternoon Hhyftrftdr. Thank you for message. It was an honour to be sat at the same table as yourself and Waller yesterday, the pair of you made me laugh so much, and made the game a joy to play. All the best. Rainman397 In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
Very pleased for you Rainman, and well done Tikay for organising it. Lighten up a bit Gary. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Good afternoon again Sir Tikay. A big thank you again for the entry,this is like a main event for me and am really looking forward to it. All the best Rainman397 P.S. What does mof stand for.In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
Here's the current Lobby for that UKOPS Warm Up Deepie this afternoon..... rainman397 5000 BOOMIO, just one entry! I suspect there may be more entries later...... Go on Rainy, TID with the MOF. Posted by Tikay10
Good afternoon again Sir Tikay. A big thank you again for the entry,this is like a main event for me and am really looking forward to it. All the best Rainman397 P.S. What does mof stand for.In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS? : Posted by rainman397
I know it is like a Main Event to you Rainy, & I really hope you get a bit of run good, & go deep, or even cash. Few are more deserving, imo.
Good afternoon all. Just got back in from shopping with she who must be obeyed, and noticed field of 17 runners and i recognise most of the names, so will enjoy the honour of playing the great and the good. All the best. Rainman397 P.s Thank you again Sir Tikay.
Nothing to apologise for Tikay. Been blown completely out of proportion. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Nobody, including me, gives a hoot about this particular incident.
The danger here is the precedent it sets.
Let's say two friends make it to tonight's UKOPS final table and decide to do exactly the same thing, ie openly agree to go all-in blind against each other, sacrificing one of the stacks for sixth place money, then use the combined big stack to run over the remaining four players.
They could quite rightly cite this thread as evidence that it's a tactic used and endorsed by the face of Sky Poker, with the full support of members of this community. It would put Tikay in a very awkward position
If you say it's OK to do this in the mid-stages of a £2.20 Deepie, but not a UKOPS Main Event final table where do you draw the line? Should it be allowed in £5.75 Bounty Hunters, but not in £11 Bounty Hunters? Should it be allowed up to level 4 of tournaments, but not from level 5 onwards?
It's impossible to draw such lines, it either has to be allowed in all games or not allowed at all.
In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS? : Nobody, including me, gives a hoot about this particular incident. The danger here is the precedent it sets. Let's say two friends make it to tonight's UKOPS final table and decide to do exactly the same thing, ie openly agree to go all-in blind against each other, sacrificing one of the stacks for sixth place money, then use the combined big stack to run over the remaining four players. They could quite rightly cite this thread as evidence that it's a tactic used and endorsed by the face of Sky Poker, with the full support of members of this community. It would put Tikay in a very awkward position If you say it's OK to do this in the mid-stages of a £2.20 Deepie, but not a UKOPS Main Event final table where do you draw the line? Should it be allowed in £5.75 Bounty Hunters, but not in £11 Bounty Hunters? Should it be allowed up to level 4 of tournaments, but not from level 5 onwards? It's impossible to draw such lines, it either has to be allowed in all games or not allowed at all. Posted by GaryQQQ
So why even bring it up?
And it doesn't set any precedents. Little bit of common sense goes a long way.
Good afternoon all. Just got back in from shopping with she who must be obeyed, and noticed field of 17 runners and i recognise most of the names, so will enjoy the honour of playing the great and the good. All the best. Rainman397 P.s Thank you again Sir Tikay. Posted by rainman397
GL in yr game dear hope you do an aceness bink!!
As for the ^^ tikay/maca hands... can't see a prob.
I very much doubt either of of them would be playing for lolz on a main event FT as they were in this game. I reg call any two against these type of players 1 on 1 ....
TRIP5 (for fun)
GBUK (more fun knocking yr sis out)
Waller (tilts him)
Lyonsbob (just cos)
Giant (so he swears)
JONO (cant hit a hand re me, simples)
Guess its what some folk call fun, and the price ticket backs that up.
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Best of luck rainmain, hope you run deep and will certainly pop along to rail you.
Lighten up a bit Gary.
It's impossible to say if I would have finished 3rd without that double up, but I agree, it's highly unlikely.
No "naughtyness" or ill-intent existed, it was spur of the moment, & just intended as fun. The rest of the Table seemed to enjoy & applaud the "spirit" of it.
I'm more than happy to donate my winnings to charity if anyone thinks my actions were unethical.
It was, genuinely, just a bit of fun between two fierce competitors & good friends, not pre-meditated in any way, & not intended to confer any advantage over anyone.
"effectively agreed to consolidate stacks" was certainly not how it was intended, it never crossed my mind.
I do see your point, though.
Apologies to anyone who felt this was improper.
Incidentally, there is no "Late Reg" for this MTT, so the 100 runners criteria never came into it.
Been blown completely out of proportion.
The way Sir Tikay and Macacgirl were playing was purely for fun and enjoyed by everyone at the table and the railers, i am sure no one at the table saw it as a way to double up.
Also the late reg lasts 12 minutes and was well over by the time this had happened, and was well short of 100 runners.
All the best.
Rainman397
Late Reg had closed by the time it happened, but I don't really have a precise memory of what stage it arose. I thought it was early doors, maybe early to mid. I know I had 7,000 or so, & Macac had double that.
Thank you for good luck message, it was an honour and pleasure to be sat at the same table as yourself yesterday, really enjoyed the banter between yourself and Hhy.
All the best.
Rainman397 In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
Thank you for message.
It was an honour to be sat at the same table as yourself and Waller yesterday, the pair of you made me laugh so much, and made the game a joy to play.
All the best.
Rainman397 In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
Here's the current Lobby for that UKOPS Warm Up Deepie this afternoon.....
I suspect there may be more entries later......
Go on Rainy, TID with the MOF.
A big thank you again for the entry,this is like a main event for me and am really looking forward to it.
All the best
Rainman397
P.S. What does mof stand for.In Response to Re: Rainman's £2.20 @ 2.20? FREE UKOPS ENTRY UP FOR GRABS?:
MOF?
As in TID with the MOF?
Take It Down with the Minimum Of Fuss.
It's street speak, like wiv the kidz, 'innit?
Is it me or is there no 2.20 @2.20 in the lobby today??
EDIT: I had the UKOPS filter on!!!
Just got back in from shopping with she who must be obeyed, and noticed field of 17 runners and i recognise most of the names, so will enjoy the honour of playing the great and the good.
All the best.
Rainman397
P.s Thank you again Sir Tikay.
The danger here is the precedent it sets.
Let's say two friends make it to tonight's UKOPS final table and decide to do exactly the same thing, ie openly agree to go all-in blind against each other, sacrificing one of the stacks for sixth place money, then use the combined big stack to run over the remaining four players.
They could quite rightly cite this thread as evidence that it's a tactic used and endorsed by the face of Sky Poker, with the full support of members of this community. It would put Tikay in a very awkward position
If you say it's OK to do this in the mid-stages of a £2.20 Deepie, but not a UKOPS Main Event final table where do you draw the line? Should it be allowed in £5.75 Bounty Hunters, but not in £11 Bounty Hunters? Should it be allowed up to level 4 of tournaments, but not from level 5 onwards?
It's impossible to draw such lines, it either has to be allowed in all games or not allowed at all.
And it doesn't set any precedents. Little bit of common sense goes a long way.