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lolufold
waller02
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I have just been playing and watching the main event. Had the pleasure (or not) of having lolufold on my table. A hand of his was featured on 861 yet there was no reference at all of him being ex? analyst Redmond Lee. This seems a bit fickle to me.
Obviously don't know the ins and outs of the situation but he was the best analyst Sky have had imo, as well as being a "stalwart" of Sky back in the day. To give no reference to him seemed a bit out of order. I was just a bit miffed!
Over reacting??
Obviously don't know the ins and outs of the situation but he was the best analyst Sky have had imo, as well as being a "stalwart" of Sky back in the day. To give no reference to him seemed a bit out of order. I was just a bit miffed!
Over reacting??
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Here today, forgotten about tomorrow
Very good Mr Daggers.
Have a nice day.
I think you are, perhaps, reading too much into this.
I never saw the Show, & I've no idea why his 861 connection was not mentioned, but its possible that Karl never even realised, or made the "connection".
There was, or is, to my knowledge, no "bad blood" between Redmond & Ch 861.
He does not play so much these days, or not that I am aware of, & I've not seen him in many Sky Poker MTT's in the last 6 months.
Delighted he had a great result last night, & I'm hoping we will see him at the UKPC next month.
and why did Carlo leave, miss his commentary
Just a quick PS to this.
The 861 Head Honcho, Dan, contacted me yesterday as he had seen the thread.
He was as puzzled as you were, there was no reason or "agenda" not to mention it was Redmond.
There are two "regular" Show Producers, Dan & Louis.
Part of what they do, non-stop, for 5 hours durinmg a show, is nudge & prompt the Presenter & Analyst, via their "talkback" (earpiece), as to various "interesting" things & players.
So they'd have said "lolufold is Redmond Lee, give him a mention bla bla" sorta thing. If the Presenter or Analyst was one who played on the site a lot, they'd know that anyway, but not all of them do.
However, on Sunday, it was not a "regular" Producer, so they probably never even knew lolufold was Redmond. I doubt Karl would know the history, either.
What I will do though is explain how the system works.
None of the Presenters or Analysts have a "contract" to appear as such, they (we...) all have an "Agreement".
All that Agreement says is, in short, "if we choose to use you for a show, you will be paid x, & will be expected to arrive at this time, & behave & conduct yourself in this manner".
It specifically does NOT say "we (ch 861) commit to using you regularly, infrequently, or ever". None of them are directly employed, they are all freelance. It simply says "IF we use you, these are the terms".
Every month (or not...) the Head Producer writes to those he may wish to use & says "please give us your availability for next month".
And if - IF - they write back with their available dates, & if - IF - the Producer wishes to book them, he does. And if he does not, thats it.
Equally, if the Presenter or Analyst does not want to commit to dates for the next month, or has no "convenient" dates available, they say so.
So nobody gets "sacked" as such, but if for some reason, either party does not wish to continue, that's it, end of.
There are any number of reasons why they may, or may not, continue to appear on 861.
It's TV, people come & go.
I've been here since the start, as has Lord Smirk, but we both have to await that e-Mail every month telling us if we have any shifts next month or not. (With some trepidation & nervousness, I might add!). And if we don't, we don't, that's it, there's no "appeal" procedure or statutory rights.
Hope that helps your understanding of the system.
No one could hope to regularly feed a family on such a basis as a trade unionist we complain about 0 hr contacts lol at least they have a contract. Is this common across TV Tikay?
Not if your name is Bruce Forsyth or Dorothy Squires of course, they all have contracts & deals, but the vast majority of tv work is on the "as & when required" basis. Keeps them up to their task!
About 25 years ago my sister worked in the catering business. She would sometimes manage restaurants and other food places on a short-term basis. Somehow she ended up living in and running a pub called the Pheasant Plucker for about two years. It was owned by Dorothy Squires. I remember my parents being pretty impressed and thinking she was a top famous person. With no Wiki or Google in those days I had no real idea of why she was famous.
Anyway bring back the beautiful Kara Scott I hear she is a free agent again ;-)
As to those on 861, it is not the "primary income" for any of them.
If you find work has dried up in a 2 month period then it would be a good idea to start looking for something else - but having that buffer there will help you!