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Call or Fold?

VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,061
edited December 2021 in Strategy
From the mini Roller last night.

Both players had been very active.
X was opening a lot of hands.
Y was 3-betting every time they had the button, mostly with garbage from what i saw.
Was hoping to get Hu with X, but when they went all-in i wasn't sure what to do.



PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
VespaPX Small blind   75.00 75.00 7717.50
MARYBOBBIN Big blind   150.00 225.00 4610.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
waller02 Fold        
effelreed Fold        
x
 Raise   300.00 525.00 5145.00
y
 Raise   1050.00 1575.00 10920.00
VespaPX Raise   3525.00 5100.00 4192.50
MARYBOBBIN Fold        
x
 All-in   5145.00 10245.00 0.00
y
 All-in   10920.00 21165.00 0.00
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    waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,035
    edited January 2015

    Personally I'm not 4betting pre here unless I'm happy to get it in.

    Can/should you be 4betting pretty much half your stack and then folding?? I dunno, that's one for the better players to help with!

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    Gudge92Gudge92 Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2015
    Depends on the avg and your own style really. alot of players like to get into races however if you think your a better player then that then its a fold
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited January 2015
    Hmmmm, neither player seems concerned by the cold 4bet. I think we can just about 4bet fold here, but the sizing should be a tad smaller IMO regardless of if we are going with the hand or not.
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    F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,396
    edited January 2015
    As Waller said... you can't 4-bet fold here because by doing so you're effectively turning your jacks into a bluff... and there are better hands to be 4-bet bluffing with.

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    FezioJrFezioJr Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2015
    You can't be 4-bet folding here for half of your stack. The only problem with your sizing is you're now committed to the pot which both other guys know and the fact they're both happy to get it in tells us our Js are likely behind.

    We just have to hope they both have combos of AK/AQ :)
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,061
    edited January 2015
    Thanks Guys

    I did make the call

    X had 1010
    Y had AK

    Flop Q52
    Turn 3

    Happy days :-)

    River - 10 :-(
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:
    Thanks Guys I did make the call X had 1010 Y had AK Flop Q52 Turn 3 Happy days :-) River - 10 :-(
    Posted by VespaPX
    Ha that's like the nut best you could have hoped for! :) unlucky sir.
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    Pkr_GirlPkr_Girl Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2015
    Fold, pocket Js aren't worth that kind of 4bet.
    Did you ever find out what he was packing??
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,061
    edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:
    Fold, pocket Js aren't worth that kind of 4bet. Did you ever find out what he was packing??
    Posted by Pkr_Girl
    See 2 posts above
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