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Is there a rational explanation?
Seagull158
Member Posts: 1,100
I was playing in a DYM this evening and was lying second with 4 remaining when these 3 hands occurred consecutively. Shortly afterwards I was eliminated in 4th place (whilst in online chat with Sky Support reporting the behaviour I was seeing). Can anyone explain why these hands would be played the way they were apart from the obvious?
| eagull158 | Small blind | 300.00 | 300.00 | 645.00 | |
| Villain1 | Big blind | 600.00 | 900.00 | 6507.50 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Villain2 | Fold | ||||
| Villain3 | All-in | 630.00 | 1530.00 | 0.00 | |
| Seagull158 | Fold | ||||
| Villain1 | Fold | ||||
| Villain3 | Muck | ||||
| Villain3 | Win | 1530.00 | 1530.00 |
Villain1 | Small blind | 300.00 | 300.00 | 6207.50 | |
| Villain2 | Big blind | 600.00 | 900.00 | 2717.50 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Villain3 | Fold | ||||
| Seagull158 | Fold | ||||
| Villain1 | Call | 300.00 | 1200.00 | 5907.50 | |
| Villain2 | Raise | 600.00 | 1800.00 | 2117.50 | |
| Villain1 | Call | 600.00 | 2400.00 | 5307.50 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| Villain1 | Check | ||||
| Villain2 | Bet | 1800.00 | 4200.00 | 317.50 | |
| Villain1 | Fold | ||||
| Villain2 | Muck | ||||
| Villain2 | Win | 4200.00 | 4517.50 | ||
Villain2 | Small blind | 300.00 | 300.00 | 4217.50 | |
| Villain3 | Big blind | 600.00 | 900.00 | 930.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Seagull158 | Fold | ||||
| Villain1 | Fold | ||||
| Villain2 | Raise | 900.00 | 1800.00 | 3317.50 | |
| Villain3 | Call | 600.00 | 2400.00 | 330.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| Villain2 | Fold | ||||
| Villain3 | Muck | ||||
| Villain3 | Win | 2400.00 | 2730.00 | ||
Comments
The first hand looks like a short stack going allin which happens, although most players (villain 1) would call for only another 30 as he's in the BB already and that does seem strange ??
The 2nd hand and 3 rd hand .. well I can only assume as the Blinds were so high , if a 'villain' is betting they wouldn't be messing they'd bet all- in .. so the bet call check fold looks a bit strange ...
Very strange ... a case for Mulder and Scully me thinks !!!
SkyMod1 will sort this out .. he has nothing better to do than send me stupid P M's *sigh*
Sometimes i start asking them if they are mates or married but they seldom respond lol.
Its like they are using free minutes to talk to each other on their mobiles. Could be done i suppose, i could do it myself but even i dont really believe it and it still doesnt guarantee them all a win, but two out of three players would turn over a profit.
I dont loose because of it or am ranting about it, but i have thought that players are 'chip sharing' on many an occasion.
Example 3 does look very strange when a check is available.
As you have reported this to the Mods, I am sure it will get sorted.
1st one looks bad but they could have just seen the all in and not taken notice of the chip stack or due to laggy connection it may not have given them option to call (happened to me a milion and one times) and would not show as disconected.
Hand 2 doesn't look too bad. He calls from SB to see flop. Is raised by BB, calls again to see flop then the original raiser fires a big bet with A & Q on board and the limp caller folds??? it may not be great play but i don't see anything untoward in that.
Hand 3 does look odd but i have passed my option to check before and folded. When i first started playing if i had a hand that i thought may get me into trouble if it hit on later streets i used to fold it sometimes
Does look dodgy though
I realy don't see anything wrong with 2nd hand, especially as this may be at £1 or £2 DYM stakes so the standard of play isn't great. (i know that's the OP's usual stakes so i presume that's what we are talking about)
The probability of collusion to make a profit with the rake at 10 - 15% is not high as there are better levels to do this at and better ways. I see no profit in this if it is collusion but i've said that on here and got shot down before as "Profit" isn't the point...... it's the principal of it lol
On a serious note, if i was going to bother cheating then it would have to be worth my while as i would be risking my account and losing any fun to be had from the game i was playing
EDIT:
I would not consider cheating even if it were worth my while. But i imagine those that do would do it at a stake worth winning at.
Hard to prove i suppose but just looks a bit dodgy sometimes.