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Results a side, is this a good call?

smileychopsmileychop Member Posts: 124
edited February 2015 in The Poker Clinic

Results a side, is this a good call?

This is the Turbo Tuesday main event at 200/400 bb with 300/600 coming in about 2 minutes time.

No real reads on players. the table as a whole has seen a few limped pots with **** hands and I've been pushing the tight aggressive image.

Due to the limped pot, I decide a pot sized raise would be right and would be happy to see it fold all the way round.

post flop when he goes all in, I put aj or sets at the top of his range of hands he'd have here. I think I have decent equity to call with my pair of jacks, queen kicker as due to the limp pre flop, I think he is more likely to have 2 clubs in his hand, and I'm happy to take a flip to increase my dwinderling stack.

I'm just wondering long term, if I should be calling this when I could just fold and leave myself 14 bb, soon to be -10 bb when it goes to 300/600 in 2 minutes time.  

I hope this makes sense. 

cheers in advance. 

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
cescone04 Small blind  200.00 200.00 5278.75
DAVEYZZ Big blind  400.00 600.00 2843.75
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • Q
     
HotBean Fold     
bigsid Call  400.00 1000.00 8562.79
smileychop Raise  1800.00 2800.00 5832.50
Lettuc7 Fold     
cescone04 Fold     
DAVEYZZ Fold     
bigsid Call  1400.00 4200.00 7162.79
Flop
   
  • 5
  • J
  • 3
     
bigsid All-in  7162.79 11362.79 0.00
smileychop All-in  5832.50 17195.29 0.00
bigsid Unmatched bet  1330.29 15865.00 1330.29
bigsid Show
  • J
  • A
   
smileychop Show
  • J
  • Q
   
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • A
     
bigsid Win Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks 15865.00

Comments

  • smileychopsmileychop Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2015
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    cescone04 Small blind  200.00 200.00 5278.75
    DAVEYZZ Big blind  400.00 600.00 2843.75
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • Q
         
    HotBean Fold     
    bigsid Call  400.00 1000.00 8562.79
    smileychop Raise  1800.00 2800.00 5832.50
    Lettuc7 Fold     
    cescone04 Fold     
    DAVEYZZ Fold     
    bigsid Call  1400.00 4200.00 7162.79
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • J
    • 3
         
    bigsid All-in  7162.79 11362.79 0.00
    smileychop All-in  5832.50 17195.29 0.00
    bigsid Unmatched bet  1330.29 15865.00 1330.29
    bigsid Show
    • J
    • A
       
    smileychop Show
    • J
    • Q
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    bigsid Win Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks 15865.00  17195.29
  • rspca12rspca12 Member Posts: 618
    edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: Results a side, is this a good call?:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance cescone04 Small blind   200.00 200.00 5278.75 DAVEYZZ Big blind   400.00 600.00 2843.75   Your hole cards J Q       HotBean Fold         bigsid Call   400.00 1000.00 8562.79 smileychop Raise   1800.00 2800.00 5832.50 Lettuc7 Fold         cescone04 Fold         DAVEYZZ Fold         bigsid Call   1400.00 4200.00 7162.79 Flop     5 J 3       bigsid All-in   7162.79 11362.79 0.00 smileychop All-in   5832.50 17195.29 0.00 bigsid Unmatched bet   1330.29 15865.00 1330.29 bigsid Show J A       smileychop Show J Q       Turn     4       River     A       bigsid Win Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks 15865.00   17195.29
    Posted by smileychop

    standad call after flop. i dont like your 1600 raise to big if u going 1600 u might as well jam pre which i probaly do. if u wont to standad raise make it 1000-1300 its anorther as at this point u opaning raise without limpers should be 800-900. gd agression by the way just ul. 

  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited February 2015
    Pretty decent hand to overlimp with, we don't really mind seeing a multiway flop with this.

    As played, not loving it but probably (just) have to go with it. If the 3h was the 3d then it might be a pass ;)
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited February 2015
    Perfect hand to limp along with tbh
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited February 2015
    yeah that is a hugeee raise for that stage of an MTT and you have to fold if you get shoved on so its not the best idea... why not make it 950-1100? i guarantee it will do the exact same job and this time round it probably wouldnt affectr things too much but in the long term it will save you a lot of chips and still give you the initiative in the hand
  • smileychopsmileychop Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2015
    Cheers guys, 

    I can see what you all mean. Bet less pre flop and give myself the option of folding on another street if need be. I feel as though I could of folded this shove if I had a bigger stack and looked for a better spot later, so betting less or limping along pre would of helped me.

    I'll be honest, I never really limp along with anyone preflop these days, it's so frowned upon that I either raise or fold. But I can see how I could of benefited from it in this situation.

    Thanks again
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